Peavey Blue Marvel in Transchorus 210 amplifier

[Soulgolem]

Hi all, anyone have experience with this speaker ? specifically the 10" version.

Here's my story, i recently got a Peavey Transchorus 210, it's powerful, fairly light, the chorus is gorgeous, drive channel unusable and the spring reverb tank is pretty alright.

I got it because i started playing in a soon to be touring band and they have requested that i use a beater amp with lots and lots of clean headroom, in other words, a solid state amp. Didn't have a lot of money so bought this fairly cheaply.

Now it sounds good for some stuff, but when it comes to funky riffs aka strumming muted chords it has a sort of "clank" sound to it, feels like concrete strings hitting a moving truck for lack of better words, i'm not the most technical but i would attribute this to having really heavy mids, i leave the mid EQ at 0 and it still is too much, from what i gather online (youtube demos) blue marvel speakers seem to be the culprit.

now it would be great if i could get away with a speaker swap, would be cost effective but i'd really love to hear from others with similar experience perhaps ?

Thanks !!

 

[Informal]

You joined a touring band, and they want you to bring a beater Solid State??

I'd just grab a Vox MV50 and a few pedals, Maybe a Katana.... An older Peavy solid state would be my last choice, unless I was a pedal steel player.

 

[Dacious]

Try backing off the trebleb slightly . Return mids/bass to where they were. A speaker change alone won't fix this.

 

[Soulgolem]

You joined a touring band, and they want you to bring a beater Solid State??

I'd just grab a Vox MV50 and a few pedals, Maybe a Katana.... An older Peavy solid state would be my last choice, unless I was a pedal steel player.

hmm i’m not sure why an old peavey would be your last choice, peaveys have a reputation of being indestructible, the amp i got sports an analog chorus that sounds gorgeous and a reverb tank that’s very usable, also made in the USA for what it’s worth,

the katana is interesting although i don’t like the sound of it at all, sounds artificial to my ears, haven’t heard the vox yet but i’m not too keen on needing a cab and using a pedal type adapter. I appreciate the suggestions though.

 

[Soulgolem]

Try backing off the trebleb slightly . Return mids/bass to where they were. A speaker change alone won't fix this.

i tried some things today with the parametric eq in my boss ms-3, i did try backing off treble on the amp and boosting higher trebles on the pedal, once eq-ed properly the amp sounded much better, my assertion that a speaker swap could be key is from watching a video on youtube where someone compares a blue marvel to a vintage 30 swap, in the video it seems to affect exactly the trouble frequencies but the speaker being swapped is a 12 inch and i’m not very familiar with how 10 inchers (like in my amp) are supposed to sound, hence why i came here looking for advice.

i understand most people freak out when they see a peavey logo they probably judge such an amp before even playing it, but my experience is that peavey has made great stuff over the years, much more durable than the newest cheap stuff.

 

[Informal]

hmm i’m not sure why an old peavey would be your last choice, peaveys have a reputation of being indestructible, the amp i got sports an analog chorus that sounds gorgeous and a reverb tank that’s very usable, also made in the USA for what it’s worth,

the katana is interesting although i don’t like the sound of it at all, sounds artificial to my ears, haven’t heard the vox yet but i’m not too keen on needing a cab and using a pedal type adapter. I appreciate the suggestions though.

If you prefer the sound of a SS Peavy, over a Katana... Then you're golden.

I guess a SS Peavy wouldn't be my absolute LAST choice, But I could think of about 150 cheaper and or lighter solutions that I would go with first before I grabbed an old SS Peavy.

 

[Soulgolem]

If you prefer the sound of a SS Peavy, over a Katana... Then you're golden.

I guess a SS Peavy wouldn't be my absolute LAST choice, But I could think of about 150 cheaper and or lighter solutions that I would go with first before I grabbed an old SS Peavy.

I appreciate your commenting really but i started this thread in order to get advice on what to do with my amp within my budget, otherwise sure, i'd buy loads of stuff. Also there has been lots of discussion around this place about blue marvel speakers and praising peavey amps so i thought some of those owners would chime in.

for anyone curious,
here's a video comparing a blue marvel to a vintage 30


you can tell that the blue marvel is heavy on mids.

tried my external EQing at rehearsal today, the amp actually sounds pretty good now, still feel like swapping speakers would make a massive change.

 

[naveed211]

Personally, I like Blue Marvels. Had the 210 Delta Blues with them and I liked the tone.

I wonder if it’s more the amp itself that isn’t the best. For fast funky riffs, you could try adding a compression pedal to smooth out that immediate “clanky “ sound you described. You could try a drive pedal for a different flavor of drive instead of the stock drive channel.

But yeah, changing speakers will certainly make a difference if you’re not happy with the tone. You can probably find some 10 inch speakers used pretty cheap.

 

[Soulgolem]

the culprit was mostly the guitar, tried a vintage fender bullet and it rocked. still wanna change the speakers though

 

[jeffrotan1]

the culprit was mostly the guitar, tried a vintage fender bullet and it rocked. still wanna change the speakers though

Great guitar choice you made there! Love those vintage fender bullets, especially the 81 - 83 USA versions.

 

[J-bass&Tele]

IIRC, not all Blue Marvel speakers are made the same, even of the same size/diameter.
Just yesterday, I pulled out the 10" Blue Marvel out of my Envoy 110 (Red stripe, from ~2008).
Out of all the 10" speakers I've had, it's certainly lightweight. Tiny magnet. Nothing wrong with it but different speakers might fit what you need better, hold up at volume better and so on.

Do you play strictly clean/super dirty or a lot of shades between? Very loud? Quiet? Budget?
I've bought a bunch of used, 10" speakers and they're usually not very expensive.

BTW, you don't need to find a 6Ω speaker, if that's what your Blue Marvels states it is, I'm quite certain they write the DC resistance instead of rated impedance, if it says 6Ω.
The 10", 8Ω rated speakers I have at home measures (DC resistance):

Blue Marvel: 5,6
Jensen C10Q: 6,2
HH Invader 10-35-G: 6,0
Celestion G10E-30 (Tube 10): 5,8
Eminence 1028k: 6,1