Your Ideal Tonewood Combo

What is your preferred Body + Fretboard Combination?

  • Alder Body + Rosewood Fretboard

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • Ash Body + Rosewood Fretboard

    Votes: 5 5.3%
  • Alder Body + Maple Fretboard

    Votes: 10 10.5%
  • Ash Body + Maple Fretboard

    Votes: 15 15.8%
  • Ash Body + Ebony Fretboard

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • Alder Body + Ebony Fretboard

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • Mahogany Body + Rosewood Fretboard

    Votes: 2 2.1%
  • Mahogany Body (Maple Top) + Rosewood Fretboard

    Votes: 7 7.4%
  • Mahogany Body + Richlite Fretboard

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mahogany Body (Maple Top) + Richlite Fretboard

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • Tonewoods are a Myth, wood type doesn't affect Tone

    Votes: 17 17.9%
  • They all sound good to me!

    Votes: 24 25.3%
  • Wood choice doesn't affect the Tone of the Guitar

    Votes: 11 11.6%

  • Total voters
    95

Backbeat8

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What is it?

In my exploits I have determined that an Ash Body, combined with a Rosewood board is my ideal. Ash body (especially with a thin paint coat or nitro-- usually the case since its Ash for looks) + Maple board sound way too harsh and bright for my liking, this is over many guitars tested, strats and teles. I think it looks good on paper, and in reality, the ash grain with Maple fretboard have an appealing look, but I feel that they combine to create this very bright almost "saturated" overall Tone.

Alder body combined with Rosewood to me is acceptable, it is just a solid combo, for single coils to use as their foundation. Alder and Maple seems to be a good combo, especially on Strats I feel, such as the more 50's styled strats, which is weird because they were supposed to be Ash and Maple originally, but then maybe that is not so weird, because maybe they realized also that the Ash/Maple combo was simply too bright, combined with the single coil sound.

Now, Ash/Maple could actually be good (now that I think of it) if you were using humbuckers, I am now envisioning, a "packaged" sound, meaning, the Ash/Maple combo would be so bright, yet all those harsh harmonics would be "contained" by the humbuckers.

But yea, I definitely feel, strongly that Ash/Maple is just not a good combo, it's like it sounds "fizzy" and overly hollow, when combined with the single coils. I think the single coils, need something substantial, to "sit upon", they need something with some actual density, and while i have pointed out that Ash is actually denser than Alder, Alder bodies almost always have thick finishes on them, which create a more stabilized sound. The more coats of paint you put on top of the wood, the less and less, the type of wood matters.
 

Backbeat8

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I’m a (light) swamp ash/rosewood guy.
I’m cool with alder, too.
I think maple necks look great, but I’ve never bonded with one, long term.
My avatar is light, 1 piece swamp ash, with a great Philip Kubicki rosewood board neck.
Wow! The guitar in your avatar looks really cool! I haven't looked closely at it, but that fretboard looks awesome! Kind of a hybrid with a Les Paul...
Yeah there’s an option missing on that poll...
What? I gave numerous options....I thought we have too many options in this day and age....and you are complaining about not enough options:)
 

AAT65

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What? I gave numerous options....I thought we have too many options in this day and age....and you are complaining about not enough options:)
Well it looks like you’ve added some options which cover what I was looking for!

There’s a trigger word in your thread title (though it’s not in the survey title) which some of us will be expecting to kick off a reaction...

1. The differences are not quantifiable.
2. The differences are probably not audible to the human ear.
3. And even if they are audible . . . see 1.

Message ends.
...for a very mild-mannered example!
 
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Backbeat8

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1. The differences are not quantifiable.
2. The differences are probably not audible to the human ear.
3. And even if they are audible . . . see 1.

Message ends.
But if you perceive them to be real, quantifiable, and audible, then they may as well be, because they affect your playing. If you think that it is real, then it is real....especially when we are in the realm of Music Mojo.

Conversely, if you live on the premise that it is not real...then you live in a "dead world", where objects are simply objects, and Music, is machinistic. Living in "that" world, is not very good, if you want to be a great artist, and be able to transcend the moment, and create a transcendent experience for your audience, one in which Time ceases to matter, and magic is created.
 

Backbeat8

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The Neck is Maple or Mahogany, really, I mean, that is just getting too "Magical" even for me. :) The type of guitar is "all type", I didn't want to specify what type it was...It's obvious isnt it? By the combo choice given.
 

hemingway

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But if you perceive them to be real, quantifiable, and audible, then they may as well be, because they affect your playing. If you think that it is real, then it is real....especially when we are in the realm of Music Mojo.

Conversely, if you live on the premise that it is not real...then you live in a "dead world", where objects are simply objects, and Music, is machinistic. Living in "that" world, is not very good, if you want to be a great artist, and be able to transcend the moment, and create a transcendent experience for your audience, one in which Time ceases to matter, and magic is created.

I hear you, but I think there's a difference between playing an instrument that you love and it bringing out the best in you, and people deluding themselves. The music industry loves it when we delude ourselves. Then they can package "mojo" and sell it to us at a premium.

I'm suspicious of people selling us their "alternative facts", whether it be guitar builders or anyone else.
 

RoyBGood

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The Neck is Maple or Mahogany, really, I mean, that is just getting too "Magical" even for me. :) The type of guitar is "all type", I didn't want to specify what type it was...It's obvious isnt it? By the combo choice given.

Not really obvious - you could say I'm splitting hairs, but there are some guitars with a Fender-type wood combination + bolt-on neck, but Les Paul scale.
 

Teleterr

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Wood sounds different in general. Yes, there are exceptions. Seriously, if you can t tell the difference between the accoustic tone of an all Mahogany, Rosewood fretboard SG and a 1 piece Maple neck, Ash body Tele you need your ears checked.
I like all the combos except for anything w an Alder body, which to me sounds too "sterile" for lack of a better word.
 

RadioFM74

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What is it?

In my exploits I have determined that an Ash Body, combined with a Rosewood board is my ideal. Ash body (especially with a thin paint coat or nitro-- usually the case since its Ash for looks) + Maple board sound way too harsh and bright for my liking, this is over many guitars tested, strats and teles. I think it looks good on paper, and in reality, the ash grain with Maple fretboard have an appealing look, but I feel that they combine to create this very bright almost "saturated" overall Tone.

Alder body combined with Rosewood to me is acceptable, it is just a solid combo, for single coils to use as their foundation. Alder and Maple seems to be a good combo, especially on Strats I feel, such as the more 50's styled strats, which is weird because they were supposed to be Ash and Maple originally, but then maybe that is not so weird, because maybe they realized also that the Ash/Maple combo was simply too bright, combined with the single coil sound.

Now, Ash/Maple could actually be good (now that I think of it) if you were using humbuckers, I am now envisioning, a "packaged" sound, meaning, the Ash/Maple combo would be so bright, yet all those harsh harmonics would be "contained" by the humbuckers.

But yea, I definitely feel, strongly that Ash/Maple is just not a good combo, it's like it sounds "fizzy" and overly hollow, when combined with the single coils. I think the single coils, need something substantial, to "sit upon", they need something with some actual density, and while i have pointed out that Ash is actually denser than Alder, Alder bodies almost always have thick finishes on them, which create a more stabilized sound. The more coats of paint you put on top of the wood, the less and less, the type of wood matters.

So basically all those 50s blackguards and whiteguards are no-no, fizzy and hollow? I thought the classic blackguard sound was associated with beefy (as opposed to twangy) Tele tones?

(Full disclosure: moderate "tonewood" skeptic here... but still I think I raise valid points in a constructive manner?)
 
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