For aircraft enthusiasts: As requested, the story of the P-51 Mustang.

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This rather sinister looking gent is Edgar Schmued, American with German heritage. Schmeud is an unsung hero in aviation because he designed one iconic aircraft after another.

Schmued was hired by James H. "Dutch" Kindelberger who was the Prseident of North American aviation as chief designer. Where Schmued impressed by designing a trainer aircraft that outperformed many of the fighters that the USAAF had in service: The BT-9 "Yale"
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But the Yale as impressive as it performed was considered Obsolete very quickly as the threat of war pushed aircraft designs forward and planes had to become tougher and faster, the "Yale" was made according to WW1 specifications, steel tube fuselage spanned with fabric and wings largely made of wood.

Schmeud was asked to modernize the "Yale" which received an all metal construction, retractable landing gear and a more powerful engine, resulting in what was to become North American Aviation's first best seller: The T-6 Texan.
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The Texan and it's Canadian built cousin the Noorduyn Harvard was a slamming success and many would be fighter pilot cut their teeth on flying this stable and forgiving plane. The Texan design was also adaptable for modification into close support aircraft, light bombers and fighters and A total of 15,495 T-6s of all variants were built in the USA, Canada (Noorduyn) and Australia (Commonwealth aircraft) Currently the Texan is being honored by having it's name revised on the Hawker Beechcraft T-6 Texan.
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With war loomingthe British high command were coming to the sobering conclusion that they could not compete with Germany's industrial might and looking for fighter planes available on a larger scale than their own industry could produce. So in 1939 North American was asked to produce the Curtiss P-40 Warhawk for the British.
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The legend began with Kindelberger asking, "Ed, do we want to build P-40s here?" Schmued had been long awaiting a question like this. His answer would begin the design process, "Well, Dutch, don't let us build an obsolete airplane, let's build a new one. We can design and build a better one." Schmued and his team went to work on a new design that would use the same engine as the warhawk but could be easier to produce and would outperform the P-40 on all fronts, to cut costs many of the hydraulics and the undercarriage of the T-6 Texan was used. The British set the deadline for the design to be ready at January 1941 but Schmued's master piece already flew in October 1940.
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But what really made a difference with the Mustang was its wing. Up to then aircraft wings basically still used the design pioneered by the Wright brothers but Schmued and his team developed an entirely different design which allowed a higher speed with lower fuel rates.

The Royal Air Force ordered the plane as the Mustang Mark I and the USAAF placed an order for the production version of the P-51A and the dive bomber version the A-36 Apache.
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The A-36 Apache, the ground attack version of the Mustang, it differed from the normal P-51A by having a thicker wing with bomb racks and dive breaks. Regardless, the A-36 wasn't that big a success and was quickly replaced by the P-47 in the ground attack role.
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The Dive breaks of the A-36.

As 1940 turned into 1941 and with the Battle of Britain having rewritten the rules of aerial combat, the Royal Air Force started to receive the American planes it so desperately needed but when testing those planes against their indigenous fighters and captured German fighters found that they were far off the mark and it all was because of one common denominator: The Allison V-1710 Engine.
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Now the Allison was a temperamental engine with a limited ceiling which required turbo super chargers with complex synchronization to really make it work. And for what the British needed their planes to do in the European theater, it was hopelessly inadequate for the job.

So the Curtiss P-40 Warhawks were send to Africa and Asia where they were used in the ground attack role, the Bell P-39 Airacobras were send to Russia and the Lockheed P-38 lightnings were send send back to the USA, since they simply couldn't find any use for them.

Also, when the lightning re-appeared in European skies later in the war, the plane had been suitably upgraded, even so, according to Luftwaffe ace Adolf Galland, the fame which the "Gabelschwanz teufel" (Devil with the double tails) received was highly overrated, since the Lightning wasn't very maneuverable, nor was it very fast.

But the Mustang soldiered on, and on both sides of the Atlantic people were looking for another powerplant, to turn this dependable workhorse into a thoroughbred. In both cases, they took a P-51A and replaced the Allison by a Rolls Royce Merlin, the same engine of the Spitfire. The results were such an improvement on fuel consumption and service ceiling that it was decided to take the merlin powered Mustang into production. A licencing deal was made with Packard Automobiles to start building Merlins in the states.
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The P-51B and P-51C, which were identical to each other save from the factory where they were built, put the Merlin powered Mustang in production.
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A P-51B and the earlier Allison powered P-51A next to each other, visually you can tell them apart by the bigger nose and the four bladed propeller of the B-model.

The next improvement of the Mustang was when they changed the canopy in favor of a sliding bubble, which gave the pilot perfect all view. Creating the P-51D which in every other aspect was identical to the B model.
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For the first time there was a plane that could escort Bombers into Germany and Back again, in a very significant way, fitting a Merlin to the Mustang won the allies the war in Europe.

During the war the Mustang got several more updates, such as the P-51H model which was a complete redesign of the mustang, which shared no interchanging parts with the earlier marks.
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But the H model never went into full scale production since the D model worked far better and the war was getting to a close.

Another derivative of the Mustang which DID enter full production was the P-82 (later F-82) Twin Mustang which was meant to replace the Lockheed P-38 Lightning.
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A P-82 and a P-51D flying next to each other, showing the differences between the two types. The twin Mustang actually wasn't just two P-51 fuselages bolted together: the tail had to be redesigned and the actual wing span was less of two P-51's parked next to each other. The war ended however before the P-82 would see combat but the twin Mustang would find its niche in Korea where it flew as an all weather night fighter, scoring a respectable number of kills, in fact, it was a Twin Mustang that shot down the very first enemy plane.

But eventhough the P-51 found plenty of use after the war ended, with jet technology making piston powered fighters obsolete, it basically was the end for the Mustang.

Or was it?

Because North American's first jet fighter looked really familiar.
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The FJ-1 Fury had the wings, tailplane, avionics and general outlay of the P51D. And the "Jet-Mustang" was developed further into the F-86 Sabre, which still had many interchanging parts with the Mustang.
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The Fury and the Sabre flying next to each other.

And later when the US Navy issued a contract for a new trainer, the resulting T-2 Buckeye also had the old Mustang wing.
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And in the late seventies the Mustang was given a new lease of life when Piper tried to market the Enforcer, which was a Mustang fitted with a Turboprop engine, meant as an alternative to the A-10 Warthog.
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But they never went into full scale production and only two of which both are in this picture were built.
 

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WOW! a lot of my favorites in the line up. I didn't know Edgar Schmued was the man behind all these designs. Thank You Sir.
Have any of you read "Chuck Yeager's Autobiography"? If you are into aviation history, this book is a must read. Once you read the first few pages you cant put it down. Chuck Yeager, I feel has been way under rated. Read His book and know why.
 

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Nice job Blazer!

... lets not forget this aspect of the wing

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Galland is typically glib in his dismissal of the P-38, and he's coming from a different tactical notebook: sure, most of the Allieds' fast long-range fighters of the late war were heavier and less responsive, but their task was in air superiority in a different theatre. The P-38's tactic involved sitting above the area of battle and diving through shooting, then swooping back up & out of the fray for another go-round; similar to the Ta152 high interceptors and the FW190Ds from which they derived, which Galland was familiar with. I call him a poor sport in this one.

An unexpected speed dividend showed up in the P-51: NA was trying to get the radiator out of areas where it would mess with the aerodynamics of the wing, and this position was the next step in the progression from under the chin, out under the wings & so on. Then, once they'd set it back there, the Easter egg appeared: they were showing higher speeds than predicted for the aircraft. Turned out that the heating & resultant expansion of air past the radiator was giving a net thrust. How cool is that?
 
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Ohh sure, they were all over the South Pacific but weren't real highly respected. The P-39 was cranky, had a really weird performance envelope from that central engine location, was unnecessarily complex and difficult to maintain ("Wheaties" Welch tried to singlehandedly ditch as many as he could in order to get P-38s for FS 36), but the Russkies LOVED 'em, particularly that heated cockpit!
 

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In the P-82, what were the roles of the two pilots? Did they both have control of the plane at the same time, or did one fly it and the other navigate or something?
 

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Ohh sure, they were all over the South Pacific but weren't real highly respected. The P-39 was cranky, had a really weird performance envelope from that central engine location, was unnecessarily complex and difficult to maintain ("Wheaties" Welch tried to singlehandedly ditch as many as he could in order to get P-38s for FS 36), but the Russkies LOVED 'em, particularly that heated cockpit!

The P-38 is one of my all time favorite aircraft.
 

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In a somewhat related story to this......Maj. Alden Rigby, P-51 pilot, Ace passed away last night.

His son's announcement:
Alden Rigby, 487nd FS, 352nd FG passed away peacefully in his sleep early this morning at his home in Bountiful UT. He was 92 years old and only one month shy of his and Eleen's 73rd wedding anniversary.

Excerpt from Major Rigby's bio:
ALDEN RIGBY

A native of Fairview, Utah, Alden Rigby completed flight school in December 1943. He graduated from training on the P-51, America’s hot new fighter plane, then served as an instructor for two months at Bartow, Florida before being assigned to the 352nd Fighter Group based at Bodney, England.

When he was assigned his own P-51D fighter, he named it “Eleen and Jerry” after his wife and baby daughter. On November 27, 1944, Rigby downed his first enemy fighter, an Me-109.

In January, he was one of 12 pilots who flew combat during the famous “Legend of Y-29 Mission,” during the “Battle of the Bulge”, in which he shot down two Me-109s and two FW-190s, which were Germany’s top fighters. Three of these four victories came after his gun-sight failed. Two of the enemy fighters were shot down while having a distinct advantage (on the tail) on two American pilots. This aerial feat qualified him as an Ace. This single battle has been published as “the most devastating air ground attack in the history of WW II.” It has also been featured on the History Channel several times. The score was 24-0, under perhaps the most difficult odds of any American encounter in WW II.

In September of 2000, the American Fighter Aces Association’s Aces Victory Confirmation Board awarded Rigby the fourth victory at Y-29. This gave him five air-to-air kills and six total victories. He had also destroyed a German JU-52 on a strafing run, which he recalls “burned really well as it was made out of wood”. Also destroyed were many trains and barges.

“In air-to-air combat you could defend yourself,” Rigby says, “but with the liquid cooled engine, the P-51 in ground strafing was murderous.”

He flew 76 combat missions, with a total of 272 combat hours. He received the Silver Star, seven Air Medals, the Presidential Citation, French Croix de Guerre and the Distinguished Unit Citation.

He retired in 1979 with the rank of major. Alden Rigby was inducted into the Utah Aviation Hall of Fame in May 2007.
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Again Blazer, you rock!

Did you have any family that sparked your interest in all this aviation?
 

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WOW! a lot of my favorites in the line up. I didn't know Edgar Schmued was the man behind all these designs. Thank You Sir.
Have any of you read "Chuck Yeager's Autobiography"? If you are into aviation history, this book is a must read. Once you read the first few pages you cant put it down. Chuck Yeager, I feel has been way under rated. Read His book and know why.

Even though Chuck Yeager is probably one of the most famous
of those pilots, there were other guys that had more hits on
their record than Chuck did.

Not to discount Chuck in any way, but he was just another guy
in a bunch of extraordinary tough pilots. The story of how they
adopted a revolving door routine kept experienced pilots teaching
newer pilots the latest from the theater. In the end, they had
no weak links in their squadrons!
 

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WOW! a lot of my favorites in the line up. I didn't know Edgar Schmued was the man behind all these designs. Thank You Sir.
Have any of you read "Chuck Yeager's Autobiography"? If you are into aviation history, this book is a must read. Once you read the first few pages you cant put it down. Chuck Yeager, I feel has been way under rated. Read His book and know why.

Here's a couple of more Edgar Schmeud designed planes.

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The B-23 Mitchell

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The T-28 Trojan

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The F-86 sabre

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The F-100 Super Sabre

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The Northrop T-38/ F5 series, which is still in active service today.
 

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An unexpected speed dividend showed up in the P-51: NA was trying to get the radiator out of areas where it would mess with the aerodynamics of the wing, and this position was the next step in the progression from under the chin, out under the wings & so on. Then, once they'd set it back there, the Easter egg appeared: they were showing higher speeds than predicted for the aircraft. Turned out that the heating & resultant expansion of air past the radiator was giving a net thrust. How cool is that?

This is known as the Meredith effect, and was designed into the plane. It wasn't a surprise at all.

I recently saw a picture of what looked like a P-51B with a small bubble canopy like the Spitfire had. Does anyone know anything about this?
 

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My favorite aircraft of that war remains the P-61,

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That said, this is a great post on a great aircraft. A close friend of the family passed away less than a month ago was a P51 pilot during the war. Made the mistake of being too good in someways and was kept stateside as an instructor. God bless you, Dave.
 

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This is known as the Meredith effect, and was designed into the plane. It wasn't a surprise at all.

I recently saw a picture of what looked like a P-51B with a small bubble canopy like the Spitfire had. Does anyone know anything about this?

Yup, the Malcolm hood.
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The normal hood of the Mustang was pretty hard to open when you tried to get out of the plane in an emergency, so they asked the factory who made the Hoods for the Spitfire if they could make sliding hoods for the mustang.
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And another thing about those hoods were that they improved the all round view out of the plane, which when you're doing air-to-air combat is vital. So with that people were saying "Can we improve on that even more?" resulting in the bubble canopy of the P-51D.
 
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