WGS G12C Speaker Review

[Rockdog]

Happy Friday, tone enthusiasts!

I recently put a WGS G12C in my Peavey Classic 30 combo, replacing the stock Blue Marvel. Right out of the box, the WGS sounded great, and really improved the tone on the amp. My Classic 30 used to sound like it had a big wet blanket draped over it, but not anymore. The sound is now very open, lively and articulate. The G12C is similar to a vintage Jensen, so it definitely has a Fenderish character, but there is enough warmth and bottom end to keep it from sounding too ice-picky, a problem that is often associated with the Classic 30.

I love what this speaker does with cleans, but I find it especially sweet when driven. It goes from a nice purr to a full-on growl, depending on how hard you drive it. I've been primarily using a Keeley Blues Driver for dirt, and so far the results have been very satisfying. The G12C is also very touch sensitive, so if you make a mistake, it's pretty obvious. In that sense, this speaker could potentially help you become a better player.

I have to give big props to Vaughn at WGS for the recommendation. If you need help deciding which of their speakers will work in your rig, Vaughn is a great resource and a hell of a nice guy.

So for what it's worth, consider this my ringing endorsement of WGS speakers, and the G12C in particular. When it comes to the bang for your buck factor in aftermarket speakers, you'd be hard pressed to find a better value out there.

 

[StraightNeck]

Yes,the WGS speakers are very nice.One thing worth to mention is that they dont
have the in your face mid as the Celestions have.More suitable in Fenders,imo.

 

[I-Wil]

Sorry if I bring back a pretty old thread to life.
My G12C sounds like it's low effiency. In my blues junior III, I first had the stock emience fender speaker that could hurt a little when pushed hard. Then I had an Eminence GB128 that was loud as hell and then I put the G12C which I think is the less efficient of all three. Do you think it's normal ? I often read the G12C is considered as a normal to high efficiency speaker... Do you think I could have done something wrong while installing ?

 

[StephaninMelb]

You can check the individual speaker performance rating on the Eminence site. That should give you an indication how the speakers will perform. WGS as per below is just a generic brand speaker made by Eminence.

Aren't WGS Speakers OEM built by Eminence? Lots of the alternate secondary brands are surprisingly made by Eminence. It is one way to get one of their speakers at value pricing. Even Weber works with some of the same parts vendors and Eminence builds their bigger production runs. Truth is there aren't real speaker companies left with engineers and researchers. The bulk are reseller and reconer that worked out once you source a basket you can build a speaker with repair parts and slap your name on it. Sorry guys that is all it is. Thats why different speakers of the same family with different brand name sound very close. They are made with the same major parts from the same parts vendors. You can sort out the 1st and 2nd tier by which can provide detailed product spec sheets and those with limited performance data. The last category are primarily brand reseller and high-end reconers.

 

[SnidelyWhiplash]

I put a WGS G12C in my Headstrong Li' King. Love it. I think they make their
own speakers.

 

[StephaninMelb]

Warehouse Guitar Speakers (WGS) are not a true speaker manufacturing company, rather they are a speaker parts assembler and distributor who utilise parts acquired from vendors that manufacture cones, spiders, voice coils, etc. This WGS methodology is limited to the same technical skill set used in the reconning industry. I know the differences confuse people, but there is a huge difference. It is similar to a mechanic buying parts to build a motor, but that doesn't make his organisation an engine company like Ford or even one of their component suppliers. There is a big differences between design, assembly and manufacturing!

WGS do not employ acoustics transducer engineers nor do they have in-house speaker design capability nor are they setup to do complex manufacturing. They are about "house brand" and distribution.

"A leopard can't change its spots."

 

[AllroyPA]

So which speakers do you prefer Stephan ?

 

[printer2]

Warehouse Guitar Speakers (WGS) are not a true speaker manufacturing company, rather they are a speaker parts assembler and distributor who utilise parts acquired from vendors that manufacture cones, spiders, voice coils, etc. This WGS methodology is limited to the same technical skill set used in the reconning industry. I know the differences confuse people, but there is a huge difference. It is similar to a mechanic buying parts to build a motor, but that doesn't make his organisation an engine company like Ford or even one of their component suppliers. There is a big differences between design, assembly and manufacturing!

WGS do not employ acoustics transducer engineers nor do they have in-house speaker design capability nor are they setup to do complex manufacturing. They are about "house brand" and distribution.

"A leopard can't change its spots."

But a shop can order up a collection of parts and build you a kick ass motor. The shop does not need to be able to cast their own camshafts, just to specify which grind will work well for the build they are doing.

 

[Telenut62]

Eminence - Anthony Lucas

"We're primarily an OEM manufacturer," says Anthony Lucas of Eminence. "Of course we started our own branded line in 1999 to gain some brand recognition, but we've been an OEM manufacturer since 1966. Now that we have our own branding line we've broadened our market to focus not only on major manufactures but also on the people down the street - the end user."

Splitting hairs aren't we?

 

[I-Wil]

But, don't you think the most important thing is the way it sounds ?

Does anyone know what is the spl rating of the WGS G12C ?
Thanks

 

[StephaninMelb]

Originally posted by AllroyPA
So which speakers do you prefer Stephan ?

As far as current guitar speakers the Eminance product line primarily and these vintage speakers :

Celestion G12M-25 Greenback 12"
Celestion G12 AlNiCo Blue 12"
JBL D130F 12"
Electro Voice EV 12L
Oxford 10L6 AlNiCo 10"
Oxford 12K5-6 "Champagne" AlNiCo 12" <-- one of the most famous recording session speakers
Oxford 12M6 "Cappuccino" AlNiCo Fender Special Design 12"
Vox Blue Bulldog Reissue 12"

I'd love for A Brown Soun to make a hemp cone version of the Oxford 12K5-6. It could be the ultimate blues and country genres speaker.

 

[I-Wil]

And which is which is the eminence line ?

 

[Telenut62]

But, don't you think the most important thing is the way it sounds ?

Does anyone know what is the spl rating of the WGS G12C ?
Thanks

Prob best to ask.....

http://wgs4.com/contact

 

[StephaninMelb]

You can look for SPL rating for Warehouse Guitar Speakers (WGS) speakers until you are blue in the face. You will never find it. They do not have any specification sheets for any of their speakers. That is typical of assemblers. They also do not have an EIA (Electronic Industries Association) code, which all the speaker manufacturers have. For example:

67 = Eminence
391 = Altec-Lansing (inc. JBL)
220 = Jensen
465 = Oxford
649 = Electro Voice
137 = CTS (Chicago Telephone Supply)
328 = Utah
285 = Rola Celestion
1279 = WeberVST

 

[Groberts]

Interesting reading. So essentially when buying a WGS, you re saying we are just getting an Eminence speaker in WGS clothing, ... More r less?

 

[printer2]

You can look for SPL rating for Warehouse Guitar Speakers (WGS) speakers until you are blue in the face. You will never find it. They do not have any specification sheets for any of their speakers. That is typical of assemblers. They also do not have an EIA (Electronic Industries Association) code, which all the speaker manufacturers have. For example:

67 = Eminence
391 = Altec-Lansing (inc. JBL)
220 = Jensen
465 = Oxford
649 = Electro Voice
137 = CTS (Chicago Telephone Supply)
328 = Utah
285 = Rola Celestion
1279 = WeberVST

I am feeling blue. From their web site.

10" Veteran - 95 db
10” G10A - 97 db
10” G10C - 99 db
12" G12A - 96 db
15" G15C - 97 db
12" Black & Blue - 99 db
12" BlackHawk HP - 99 db
12" British Lead - 98 db
12" ET65 - 98 db
12” Green Beret - 99 db
12" HM75 - 98 db
12" Reaper - 99 db
12" Reaper 55hz- 99 db
12" Reaper HP - 99 db
12" Retro 30 - 100 db
12" Veteran 30 - 98 db

 

[AllroyPA]

I am feeling blue. From their web site.

Why ya feelin' blue?

 

[Rockdog]

Warehouse Guitar Speakers (WGS) are not a true speaker manufacturing company, rather they are a speaker parts assembler and distributor who utilise parts acquired from vendors that manufacture cones, spiders, voice coils, etc. This WGS methodology is limited to the same technical skill set used in the reconning industry. I know the differences confuse people, but there is a huge difference. It is similar to a mechanic buying parts to build a motor, but that doesn't make his organisation an engine company like Ford or even one of their component suppliers. There is a big differences between design, assembly and manufacturing!

WGS do not employ acoustics transducer engineers nor do they have in-house speaker design capability nor are they setup to do complex manufacturing. They are about "house brand" and distribution.

"A leopard can't change its spots."

Sir, with all due respect, if you're gonna come on here and make a bold claim like this, you'd better be able to back it up with some hard evidence.

Even if it is true, I couldn't care less. I love the way they do business and will continue to support them.

 

[printer2]

Why ya feelin' blue?

'You can look until you are blue in the face.'

 

[SnidelyWhiplash]

Sir, with all due respect, if you're gonna come on here and make a bold claim like this, you'd better be able to back it up with some hard evidence.

Even if it is true, I couldn't care less. I love the way they do business and will continue to support them.

Amen! The internet is chock full of so called " experts ". I've purchased 2 speakers from them & both were fantastic!