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Your Definition of a "Professional Musician"

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Abu Twangy, Feb 4, 2015.

  1. NStone

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    lol.....My wife's a nurse....That helps the musician cause...lol Pro Musician or Trophy Husband ...take ur pick...lol
     
  2. cowboytwang

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    If you fill out your tax forms as "Self Employed Musician", then your a Professional Musician.

    Just because I go over to a friends house and fix the drain on their kitchen sink, then they pay me $50, that DOES NOT make me a professional plumber. Sometimes I enjoy working on vehicles, and when people, usually friends, family or neighbors pay me for it that's fine, but there is no way I could ever call myself a profession mechanic just because someone paid me $50 to put brake pads on their car.
    Having a hobby and every now and then getting paid for it doesn't make it your profession.
     
  3. Toto'sDad

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    You had me right there 'til you got to the part about the banjo player being a musician. :D
     
  4. Red Square

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    Back in the 90's I for some reason thought it would be amusing to put under "occupation" on my tax form, "failed musician".
    What I learned from this was that the IRS doesn't have much of a sense of humor.
     
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    and if working on the guys wife's plumbing doesn't make you a gigolo either... :D:D
     
  6. charlie chitlin

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    Has anybody else just checked a dictionary?
     
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    Ha!
     
  8. getbent

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    the dictionary is compiled by elitists whose main goal is to keep the little man down! Actual facts and knowledge only derail an otherwise useful and effective discourse....

    unless.....

    it is the urban dictionary.. that place is rad.
     
  9. cowboytwang

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    They never pay for it, and after all is said and done, somehow I'm always the one paying for it.
     
  10. unclefred

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    The obvious answer here on the web is that a musician can only be considered a pro if he plays out at least as often as you do. You, of course, are a pro.
     
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    I don't know where the line is. Only that I haven't crossed it.
     
  12. Teleguy61

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    There it is.
     
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    If something pays your bills, then you are a pro in my humble opinion. whether there is a need to draw a line between a musician and entertainer - not in my world. If you are capable of making a living making sounds, then you're a proffesional musician. (Regardless of showing up on time or not).


    Whether that person i a good musician is irrelevant.
     
  14. Maricopa

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    Around these parts a 'professional musician' is one that does almost nothing to get gigs (and even turns down offers), then bitches constantly about 'weekend warriors' taking all the good gigs....
     
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    Mine is a simple definition. If you get paid for doing it you are a professional. Some are better, some worse, but if you're paid to do something you are a professional.
     
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    The definition doesn't much matter to me, but I would personally define it as someone who makes more money playing music than they spend on it.
     
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    At the risk of stating what others are only hinting at:

    You can be a complete sleazoid, bereft of any morals whatsoever, and also be a professional musician.

    Got that? :lol:
     
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    What do you mean, "can be"?
     
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    I have a hard time calling myself an amateur musician. Once in a while something will sound like music, but come on....

    In other professions, you don't have a semi-pro carpenter, semi-pro plumber, etc. You are or are not. Not matter how good you are. I'm an amateur mechanic...in some cases I'm better than a pro since I will have to ride in that car later. But still an amateur.

    What about "unemployed ______" In the news the say "unemployed salesman". No, you're just unemployed. Maybe you want to be a salesman again, maybe something else.

    All these labels, man.
     
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    Exactly. For 25 years my occupation on my return said musician. Now it says something else. I am no better or worse a player, but my job has changed... therefore, no longer a pro. Easy. Simple.
     
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