Yeah, but....

[AlbertaGriff]

And, I'm pretty sure, wattage rating being equal, ceramics break up earlier than alnico.

Is this true? I always thought it was the opposite.

 

[charlie chitlin]

I actually don’t mind the humbuzz, at least up to a point. I’m a humbucker guy to the core, but I do have one P90 guitar for the sake of variety. If I turn a certain way, the humbuzz appears, but I figure that’s the price you pay for SCs. If it starts to annoy me a bit, I just go back to my beloved humbuckers.

I came up with that line because some insist on SCs and then want SCs with no hum. That always cracks me up.

If the band is doing their job, they drown out the hum!
If it's too much between tunes, I step on my tuner.

 

[Wally]

If the band is doing their job, they drown out the hum!
If it's too much between tunes, I step on my tuner.

Or just turn the volume pot to zero on the guitar.
There is, however, no way of getting around single coil hum. It is a reality. Noise gates can help if one uses single coils in higher gain situations, I suppose.

 

[darkwaters]

Or just turn the volume pot to zero on the guitar.
There is, however, no way of getting around single coil hum. It is a reality. Noise gates can help if one uses single coils in higher gain situations, I suppose.

Copper shielding tape seems to help a bit, but, in the final analysis, if you want that P90 tone, you have to accept some level of humbuzz. The rose and the thorns, as it were.

 

[kuch]

I came up with that line because some insist on SCs and then want SCs with no hum. That always cracks me up.

I have the same 330 in the attached vid. it comes from the factory with hum cancelling P 90s. I like the way they sound.....

 

[archetype]

I'm more talking about the vintage guys.
Mainly the tweedss.
So many talk about how you NEED a 12AY7 in V1, then jumper the channels which, to my ears, ups the gain in a very similar way to running a 12AX7.
And, I'm pretty sure, wattage rating being equal, ceramics break up earlier than alnico.
It seems that way to me.
I like ceramic speakers.

A 12AY7 provides a base tone and jumpering provides another tone.

 

[Wally]

I have the same 330 in the attached vid. it comes from the factory with hum cancelling P 90s. I like the way they sound.....

Gibson used to call those P-100s, did they not?

 

[kuch]

Gibson used to call those P-100s, did they not?

the spec sheet lists them like this:
"MHS P-90 pickups with hum-canceling capabilities"

 

[ficelles]

Gibson used to call those P-100s, did they not?

P-100s were actually a stacked-coil pickup, two P-90 coils on top of each other in parallel with one reverse wound. Weedy unless you rewired them to be in series. The Memphis ES-330 in the vid has single-coil MHS P-90s which aren't individually hum cancelling, but the bridge pickup is reverse wound so when they're both on the effect is like a humbucker.

 

[Wally]

P-100s were actually a stacked-coil pickup, two P-90 coils on top of each other in parallel with one reverse wound. Weedy unless you rewired them to be in series. The Memphis ES-330 in the vid has single-coil MHS P-90s which aren't individually hum cancelling, but the bridge pickup is reverse wound so when they're both on the effect is like a humbucker.

Thank you for the clarification. When two single coils are working together and one is reverse wound/reverse polarity..RWRP in the guitar world, the result is that the combination is in a humbucking mode.

the spec sheet lists them like this:
"MHS P-90 pickups with hum-canceling capabilities"

What they are saying is, like much advertising hype, misleading. Neither pickup is a humbucker. The combination operates in a humbucking mode.
The P100 is a humbucking pickup.

 

[King Fan]

Heh. Can't help but notice @charlie chitlin just listed two examples of (possibly) contradictory wants and then asked, in a hopeful friendly way, "Any more?" But with a few brave exceptions, no such luck; instead we all fell to arguing about the his examples -- and then the other examples -- and then the meaning of various technical terms -- instead of adding to the list.

Which leads me to some specific 'yeah, but' ideas....

"Everybody wants to generalize, but nobody agrees with generalizations."
"We say we're seeking new ideas, but we're just rehashing old opinions."

 

[Wally]

Yeah…but….

 

[ficelles]

Neither pickup is a humbucker. The combination operates in a humbucking mode.

The middle pickup on this is reverse wound so it's hum bucking in positions 2 and 4. I can have all 3 pickups on at once, but can't work out if that's double hum bucking or if it all cancels out. Sounds ok anyway. The Roland pickup is gone.