Wow, Vox Pathfinder 15R through a 12" cab

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  1. Jazzerclean

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    I have two 15'Rs one stock and one modded including the diode removal.
    The diode removal imo gives way more clean headroom and changes the distortion from what can be fizzy fuzz at high gain, to more of a smooth variable overdrive.
    I also added a mid control and increased the intensity of the tremolo. Its not better or worse than the stock, just different. I use mine equally stock and modded.
    Going through a cab imo gives a perceived increase in volume as the bass is greatly improved and seems to spread the sound further. It is still 15 watts output, but to my ears, a fuller sound that could be perceived as louder.
    I would be confident in gigging with or without the cab just control your drummer! Angle your amp/& cab to you head, line or mic up if you band is too loud. I play solo or duo so it is easily enough power, sound spread for me.
     
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    Just do it! I don't get caught up in branding anymore, what should or shouldn't be used. If it sounds good, job done. I play jazz with gear that the jazz police would have me locked up for if given the chance, I just don't care what people think, if it gives me the sound I like.
     
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    archetype Fiend of Leo's

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    The orange frame Radio Shack guitar speakers were made by Utah. They weren't stellar, but were decent. Some BF Fenders were made with Utahs.
     
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    That's what I read somebBF fenders came with the same Utah speakers.

    The speaker sounds way good enough for me and my Vox.
     
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    How difficult is it to mod the Pathfinder-10 to have a speaker out option?
     
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    My Pathfinder has the 8" VOX/Celestion Bulldog (blue) that came out of a dead Vox Cambridge 15 I owned ( used a few years around 1999).
    I put this speaker in, as my PF ( bought used on CL) for some reason had a 4 ohm Crate speaker in it when purchased.
    The amp sounded great when I was checking it out; didn't know it did not have stock speaker un it till a day or so later!

    Anyway, have now done probably over a hundred gigs with this amp.

    The Bulldog speaker (I usually goose the amp with an always ON OD to double volume and add some grind) takes it all great ( I do have a backup speaker), and low end is fine too.
    No need for larger speaker for me, I'm leaving this alone; what an amp!
     
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    Don't know as the 15r already comes with one. Many, i hear have done the mod to the PF10, just search for the mod. I got all my info for my mods from here.
     
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    Yeah, same here. I approach things a lot the same way.
    I'll have to start scanning the local CL to see if any Pathfinder 15Rs appear anytime soon. They seem a bit hard to find, argh!

    'jazz police' LOL
     
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    Agree, I find the stock Bulldog 8" more than adequate and wasn't looking for anything else, but when I was given the chance to use the speaker out socket to a larger speaker, well gave it another flavour to this wonderful amp. Enjoy yours.
     
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    They are there, but now commanding much higher prices now the secret is out! But If I had to pay the current price commanded, I would pay it as it becomes more than just a cheap practise amp. Plus you end up with a gorgeous little amp that is a bit special.
    Get one!
    Yeah, I too lol, jazz police, pftttt.
     
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    Not surprised. I was just playing thru my Marshall Lead 12. The stock 10" speaker and small/narrow cabinet do it no favors. Running it through my 1x12 cab and other larger cabinets the amp is special.
     
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    I know that little terror well as I used to own one, its a fantastic Marshall SS! I Bet roars through a 1x12.
     
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    I think the stock PF15R speaker is different from what I put in mine
    Mine ( from Cambridge) is blue, and is badged Celestion/Vox Bulldog

    Tools of the trade on this gig- Pathfinder and Danelectro:: 20200112_194427.jpg
     
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    Yes both are Bulldog, both made by Celestion, the one they put in the earlier non reverb 15R amp is blue.
     
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    Hey, just curious.. is the Pathfinder 10 similar tone-wise to the Pathfinder15R?

    I can live without built in reverb, and am perfectly happy to hack a speaker jack to go out to an external cabinet.

    I am seeing lots of P10s out there for sale, but geez, the 15Rs are pretty scarce.

    My thinking is that I might just remove the chassis of the amp and re-house it in one of my own 12" cabinets (if space allows). The power difference isn't such a big deal, just want the same tone primarily.
     
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    No Tremolo either on the PF 10,

    Just speaking for myself,
    NOT having either Tremolo, or Reverb (which is small but real Spring, built into the chassis) would be a deal breaker for me. ( just the nature of music I play)

    The ' Swiss Army knife' aspect of this amp is what makes it for me!
     
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    OK, that helps. Thanks.
     
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    Given it is a smaller cab, no trem and no reverb it imagine would sound different (no better no worse) though i have never tried a PF10.
    However, if i didn't use my trem or reverb, and we both put the PF15 and your PF10 throught same extension cab, i can imagine we would get a very very similar if not the same sound.
    That said, stand alone as amps i imagine they may be different sounding amps on their own giving the cab size, larger speaker, but putting both through the same ext cab, both using no rev or trem, I highly doubt (or at least I) could gear any difference.
    So a PF10 would make a great amp head matched to a cab.

    Hmmm, think i will keep an eye out for a PF10 to add to mine now.
    I would get a PF 10 and who knows, as rare as the 15's are, one may come up down the track. In the mean time you can easily geta PF 10 and not miss out on that Voxy goodness. Let us know how you get on with the PF10.
     
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    I look everyday on local CL ads for a 2nd PF 15R. It's that good.
    It'll happen someday!
     
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    Yes but why wait when essentially you can get the same sound with a PF10 as long as not having trem or reverb doesn't bother you and using it through an ext cabnet as many do with their PF10's (small mod that many do for an ext spkr out required for PF10) and s/h PF10's are so cheap.
     
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