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Would you guys mind critiquing this mix?

Discussion in 'Recording In Progress' started by rhythmjones, Nov 12, 2015.

  1. rhythmjones

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    Well, I really like the song. The synth solo in it´s simplicity is great as well as the guitar solo at the ending. The recordings sounds like an ancient one, played by an small portable radio. I guess you want it that way? At the first half of the song I had the impression that the voice was not centered, but a little on the left side (but that may be an artefact by not exactly seated monitor speakers). If so, I wonder why you did, as the two guitars were panned left / right and the vocals do not interact with the centered synth?
     
  3. studio

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    Awesome Vocal Style!
     
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    Sounds good to me.

    I hear the synth panned a bit to the right at the beginning, maybe +15 to 20 or so. Then the middle synth solo is center panned. Just my personal preference, but I think the synth could be center panned at the beginning. Also, the middle part synth solo volume increases just before the break into the next verse.

    I'd also kinda like to hear some stereo spread on the drums. Everything is center panned; but again, just my personal preference. And maybe panning options are limited because of the way the drums were recorded?

    I really like your singer. Her style reminds me a bit of Edie Brickell with the New Bohemians.
     
  5. tintag27

    tintag27 Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    I have to say the drums and guitar have way too much distortion for me, seems like that and the bass are all turned up to 11... Anyway, if that is what you are aiming for, at least take the levels down in the second half of the song so they don't overpower the vocals (which I like a lot). The song itself has some interesting changes but I think these are getting lost in the full-on backing...
     
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    I would lower the volume of the instruments slightly and
    give the lead vocal track a boost in the low and mid range.

    Nice work!
     
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    Alternatively, you could reduce the upper mids in the instruments — maybe a dip in the 3K neighborhood — to carve out a space for the vocal without boosting anything. There's a lot of competition for that sonic space and it masks the lyrics. You might also look for a vocal sweet spot in the lower mids (220-250 Hz) to give it a little muscle against the powerful arrangement — even a +2-3 dB bump might make a difference.
     
  8. studio

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    I hope you guys don't mind, but I was dying to hear what
    the song sounded like in a 3 minute format, so I did some editing
    rather crudely and I made a mix to hear it that way.

    There's a few things I'd like to comment on but none of it
    meant to sting ya, just my crazy ideas on your beautiful song.

    1. Sounds like you might have over compressed the high cymbal
    parts while compressing the drums. Maybe a Multi band compressor
    would help get that task done nicely.

    2. Vocals IMO need some reinforcement on the prechorus hook.
    Maybe even some repeating, like rounds.

    3. Also in the prechorus, bring that key board note in for some
    added tension while building up to the "Bleeding and Bleeding" part.

    4. During the Bleeding and Bleeding part, maybe add some MALE
    (yup, male) background vocal type, hoot hoo faintly in the back.

    5. The middle eight part, the keyboard solo needs a pinch of something.
    i just can't put my finger on it. Maybe a bit more movement from the bass guitar
    during that part? Just my opinion, take it or leave it.

    I cut out some of the lyrical content only because it was already
    sung in the first half of the song. After the middle eight, some writers
    don't expect any new lyrical information. At that point the song
    should be wrapping up with hooks and end.

    Did I mention I love the song? Sorry for the intrusion.
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  9. Steve 78

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    How much wiggle room have you got to play around with the drums? Is everything miked separately? The cymbals sound a little weird to me - compressed or distorted. I would try to clean them up a bit and bump them up a little in the mix. If possible, I would bump up the toms a bit too.

    When the distorted guitars come in, the vocal is lost just a smidgen. It's ok, but it may be worth tinkering with the EQ a bit to allow a bit more room.

    The end guitar solo is very loud in the mix but I assume this is by choice.

    Overall, nice work!
     
  10. rhythmjones

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    Hey guys,

    I've had a busy week so I haven't been able to jump in here and thank everyone.

    I really truly appreciate all the advice and constructive feedback that everyone has given.

    Studio, that edit is wild. Thanks for adding your creative juices to it.

    I'll definitely be using some of your advice when I do a final tweak here in the next couple of days, and I'll post the new mix here.

    Thanks again everyone!
     
  11. studio

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    Every time i post up a song here for advice, you guys
    give it to me straight, no chaser. I like that and sometimes
    it's a fine line between being overbearing and slightly critical.

    Remember, we are all in our own way perfectionists within
    our own music so I think the overall listening party discussion
    is for the love of the song. Critical discussion becomes part
    of the tools used to develop this art form.

    What is your singer's name?
     
  12. woodman

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    As one who's borne his share of ass-kickings on this forum, I'm in total accord. Posting a mix thread is an act of courage and infers a commitment to your material and your grasp of your craft.

    Music is an art that demands outside observers, so you can't go wrong by running it by folks who know when you got it nailed and when you're shuckin' and jivin' to mask your weaknesses. If you can pass muster here, you're probably good to go for posting/publishing your project in whatever media your current situation demands. :D
     
  13. studio

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    Yeah I know, but it's nice to hear!
    :oops:
     
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    I think it sounds good but I think the vocals need to be reinforced all around.
     
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    No expert but again I would have liked the vocal to pop out a bit more. You have a sound very much like Altered Images, loved the track. ☺
     
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    Too much high end right across the board, but especially in the vocals and guitars, which lead to almost immediate ear fatigue. Boost the bass and tame those highs.
     
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