Worst successful songwriter?

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  1. oldgofaster

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    Worst lyrics ever, songs I listen to ugh, never
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  3. Guitarzan

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    For the win:

    Max Martin.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Martin
     
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    Maybe your just not listenin' to Mr. Martin's songwriting skills performed by the right folks in a different genre.

     
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    It's not bad, it's great. My point exactly. But it's not the simple lyrics that make the cut great, it's the whole package (talking about the original release).

    Half of it's charm is the fact that you can't tell exactly what he's saying and all the dirty lyrics imagined. It's the mystery, the garage band playing and recording, the total conviction of the band. The grunge in the tracks of the 45, the sound of the track. It is the essence of teenage R&R.

    I know all the words, I lived with the recording like many of us.

     
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    One of my booking agents was a member of the Kingsmen, just after the "Louie, Louie" hit. The story he tells about it, was the band was drinking in some bar and the Richard Berry record of "Louie, Louie" came on the juke box. A few days later they were doing a recording session, and had some time to kill, and needed to cut another song. They started trying to remember the record they had just heard on the juke box and started playing and singing. Thing is they didn't quite remember it all, so some of the changes are different and some of the lyrics got mumbled. He said there was no dirty lyrics, and no satanic messages, just some kids trying to remember words to a song they heard while drinking in a bar one night.
     
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    I didn't hear Richard Berry's version until years later. The Kingsmen track does sound like a last minute thought, part of the charm. They certainly weren't taking themselves very seriously. The drummer,... if he wasn't drinking then he was a wild man. Coulda been both.
     
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    That is kinda like a country/bluegrass version of Richard Cheese and Lounge Against The Machine.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjpn5x8oDGc


    I can't say that I dig Max Martin's writing yet.
     
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    Lee Ving, now there's a real songwriter. Heartfelt emotional ballads like "More Beer" proved he could really express the plight of american youth into a deep meaningful style. Love me some Fear.
     
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    Lee Ving rules. But I believe that the examples, the many horrific examples of bowl turds perpetrated by Max Martin have allotted him a special place on the dumb waiter descending to the 9th circle of hell.
     
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    Wasn't that written by Rod McKewen it certainly has his feel about it
     
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    Willie Nelson and Bob Dylan. Both wrote some great tunes, but Willie can't play in time (Willie timing?), and Dylan can't sing worth a crap. I avoid them when ever possible, I you like them then different strokes....
     
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    I don't know about worst. Any of the "successful" songwriters did something right or they wouldn't be successful.
    There are many I don't like much but I'd still take one cheesy hit pop song that made my bank account fat over being a hot tar roofer in Arizona.
     
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    But this is about songwriting, not singing or playing abilities...
     
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    I've been thinking about this thread. I usually don't like participating in this sort of thing, but I'll throw in anyway.
    My pick is Prince. Yeah, he's a super talented guy; great arranger (his main strength in my estimation), instrumentalist, and performer, but I think his songs are just terrible.
     
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    ^ Exactly this.

    Besides, some have to be better than others so there's always going to be a worst. And the worst songwriter still wrote a song that we've obviously heard, so he's doing better than I am! :)

    Maybe this is why I like instrumental jazz so much...
     
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    Worst successful songwriter: Pete Waterman, end of thread.

    He's the guy who we can thank for getting Kileigh Minogue and Rick Astley in the charts, the whole Stock, Aitken and Waterman hitmachine of the late eighties was terrible, very bland, very safe and deprived of every bit of talent bubblegum pop.

    Oh and I almost forgot, Waterman is also the guy who gave us THIS man...
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    Cowell was Waterman's pupil, he taught him everything he knows.
     
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