Worst demo ever!

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  1. Fendereedo

    Fendereedo Friend of Leo's

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    Sorry, but I don't normally moan about other people's playing, but I couldn't let this go. This has to be the most uninspiring demo I have ever witnessed. The guy has all of the equipment, but none of the charisma. I'll duck for cover if he is a member here lol!
     
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  2. TheGoodTexan

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    I loved the end of it. No, I mean the very end. Yeah... the part where he completely stopped playing and the video was over... that was my favorite part.
     
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    That was a bad demo video because he never took the time to show the range of controls. But "charisma" is the last thing I want in a pedal demo. I'm buying a pedal, not a person.

    it's a cliche but it's true: a good player can make any gear sound good. The many slickly produced pedal demos prove that every day. Wow, what a surprise! I learn more from watching an ordinary player faf around with a pedal in his basement than I do from pete thorn, a great player being professionally recorded and produced in order to sell pedals.

    I miss the days when amateurism ruled Youtube. it was much more useful and interesting then.
     
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    That was the golden moment for me too! ;)
     
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    Maybe charisma was too strong a word. Lingo, would probably be a better description.
     
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    That took me back to 1982, when a friend introduced me to "this is Chris, he can play a bit". At least this time I could switch it off...
     
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    Which by my reckoning, is where charisma actually made it worth watching. Not what they think is charisma nowadays, that's just ego and unself-aware over confidence it seems. I'm talking real personality. Where the presenter doesn't think they're special just because they are a YouTube star. Some ability doesn't hurt either. I mean creative ability, not just shreddy shreddy look at me.
     
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    Must admit he's not really selling it to me.
     
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    What happened to “If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all”? What do you gain by posting his video here just to make fun of him? This feels pretty mean spirited to me.
     
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    That's ME
    (just kidding)
     
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    Durtdog Poster Extraordinaire

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    When you post something for the public to view, it's fair game for criticism.

    No one went into his home and made fun of his private practice session.
     
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    Without a doubt. Same with public performance. If you saw this guy at an open mic you could walk right up to him and tell him that he was uninspiring and lacked charisma and that your favorite part of his performance was when he stopped playing. And you could gather all your friends up to make fun of him with you. You’d be within your rights, and you’d be acting like a jerk. Hypothetically.

    If the guy in the video posted it himself here in the pedal sub-forum, would we see these same comments? And would we defend them?
     
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    Well, clearly that bit of advice is being followed over on YouTube, where there are exactly 0 comments on the video, which was posted over a year ago.
     
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    A lovely toon but....... you cant dance to it :D
     
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    There used to be a lot more videos like this on YouTube where the player was just a regular person. What I sometimes find queer was how some of them never utter a word- even to the extent of merely pointing to the pickups before they play them. Maybe they’re just shy?
     
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    I'll bet he was surprised by the view boost! Silver lining! ;-)
     
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    I read everyone's comments before watching the video. This WAS a joke, right? The guy lost a bet with his friends, and HAD to do this? Four precious minutes of my life gone, never to be regained......
     
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    With all due respect the video title says "jamming" and nothing about a demo.
     
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    Not everyone is comfy talking on camera? I get that. Maxvintage has a great point that this kind of video is really useful though.

    Brian Wampler just put up a video yesterday about how the slickly produced demos are near useless for evaluating what a pedal is going to sound like.

    This guy is just using a room mic/camera mic and that gives a better idea of what it's going to sound like if you buy that pedal. The slickly produced demo where they've set a microphone up on a cab in the other room and run it through a DAW are not necessarily realistic.'

    Brian's point was people expect to buy a pedal after watching Andy Martin or Pete Thorn and just plug it in at home and immediately have that sound. It doesn't sound like that cause they don't have a gazillion dollar home studio and don't have it all mic'ed up and running through a DAW and all that. Then they get disappointed and sell the new pedal and go back to Youtube and watch some more slickly produced demos and buy something else. And repeat...

    The one that always blows me away is these slickly produced guys will demo something like a high gain amp or a Big Muff or something and give you the idea these setups are quiet as a church mouse.

    Henning Pauly has a derisive demo of the Op Amp Big Muff Pi.. he makes a point of "you turn it on and it does this" and he turns it on and it hums and hisses like crazy. None of the other demos show that generally. That was on my mind cause I have one of those and it is a REALLY noisy beast, and I have a line conditioner and hum debugger & isolated power supply and all that.

    The Keeley Compressor Plus I bought a month ago.. that thing can be really noisy into a dirty amp too. 99% of the demos you will never hear any noise.

    Another thing I think slickly produced demos hide is differences in how stuff responds at stage vs home volume levels. The same big muff I have.. if I try and play it at a sane volume level it has 0 ability to be used with the volume on the guitar rolled down. It sucks. As soon as it starts getting into unreasonable home volume levels (90dB?) it starts working totally differently. The youtube guys are always playing it really loud AFAICT.
     
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