JuneauMike
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Wow, weird. I keep hearing that name. I think I saw maybe three rig rundown vids on YT this weekend and someone pulled one of those out of the stack. Hmm.
Worship band guitar fashion(?) and the Michael Guy Chislett signature guitar
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Wow, weird. I keep hearing that name. I think I saw maybe three rig rundown vids on YT this weekend and someone pulled one of those out of the stack. Hmm.
Casey is the owner / main builder of Veritas guitars. He is a really nice guy.
JuneauMike
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I don't think I ever heard of them until this weekend, and I kept stumbling across the name. Thanks
telepraise
Friend of Leo's
I believe they are the makers of the beautiful acoustics the guitarist in Casting Crowns plays, which have the best live sound I've hard from an acoustic. When I looked at the website a couple of years back, there was no mention of pricing anywhere, which gives you an indication of the level of instruments you're looking at.
Dreadnut
Friend of Leo's
I just now looked at the website, pricing is around $4K and up.
Tollehouse Twang
Tele-Meister
I can't say much on style.. I play a firebird I built on stage at church haha. I've always loved those big gretsch's but I had a budget line hollowbodybgretsch that looked exactly like that and it was just too big. And I couldn't control the feedback. Tried it once at rehearsal and sold it off. I stick to my kit build LP w gretsch pups. My squier tele w a TV Jones in bridge and my firebird with Kent Armstrong silent p90s. I always ended up selling all my fancy guitars bc the price never was justified when my partscaster or builds were just more fun the play. But on the other hand selling all my fancy guitars I bought fancy pedals (strymons) that I can justify bc I can make ANY combo of sounds I need all ran thru midi for convenience so I will pay for functionality at the end of the day. I've always preferred guitars with character over flashy, shiny, expensive guitars. That's just me
JuneauMike
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I had an Electromatic 6120 that had garbage pickups and felt massive to play. But it did a great job of straddling that line between acoustic and electric. Unfortunately I never bonded with it (just pulling it off the wall and plugging in seemed like too much of a chore) and was glad to see it go to a good home. Haven't really missed it.
JuneauMike
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They did, yes. It had a Firebird headstock, I think. Pretty garish guitar really, for what it was marketed as.
I agree. My ability Ford not warrant a $3K guitar, do until it does I'll just stick with su $500 guitars that are functional and make me happy.
TeleGASter
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I agree as well. To own that type of high end guitar warrants a certain skill level imo. In my hands, it wouldn't make a difference. Which is why I have a Gretsch Electromatic 5410T- which gives you similar tones from the standard Filtertron pickups. I also have a Fender Vintera 50s modified telecaster, which has custom shop PUs (twisted tele neck and vintage style bridge) - which I think, sound amazing.
When you're at the $1200 to $1500 price point (in Canadian $), you get a really great guitar. As you get higher, it's diminishing returns.
However, it that Hillsong musician plays a Gretsch White Falcon, Suhr signature model, Duesenburg Starplayer, Veritas Portlander, etc., I don't think that should be frowned upon; in the right hands, these guitars sound amazing and really lend to the worship experience. Also, they are professional musicians and it's their livelihood and craft, so it makes sense that they have that custom shop or signature guitar.
Lineville65
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With respect....If that particular guitar is the instrument inspiring a player, and the player has the coin to obtain it, or perhaps they save up because to that player. this instrument is, “the one,” and the player’s heart is in the right place when he or she uses it to worship Him, or uses it to show Him through their playing to motivate others to worship then I guess I don’t consider it any of my business what guitar they’re using, and their skill level is immaterial to me. If they feel called to get up there then I’m all for it.
Man, did I learn anything about run-on sentences and paragraphs??
Man, did I learn anything about run-on sentences and paragraphs??
JuneauMike
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Yep totally agree. Whatever keeps you coming back to the instrument is ok. And as much as it pains me to admit it, when I see people playing music I am judging them. I wish I didn't mind what other people thought of me, but in that I am also pained to admit, I do.
Good thing I bought a Danelectro....
CapnCrunch
Friend of Leo's
I think that if we're honest, all of us care at some level, what others think of us. Even people who work hard to have others hate them care what others think of them, maybe just in a 180 degree opposite way from most of us.
Overly flashy guitars like the one in the OP just scream "look at me, LOOOOVE me". It is something that I'd expect to see someone like Bono "play" for the start of a single U2 song. Mostly a stage prop. Anyway, I also have to admit that I would be judging someone pretty hard if they walked out onto stage sporting that guitar. If they weren't right up there with Brian Setzer skill wise, I would judge even more, probably (almost certainly).
I have seen a couple of young worship guys play $3-$4,000 Deusenbergs, and they really should have been playing First Act starter guitars. I used to play on a team with a guy that had well over $5,000 into his Martin acoustic and high end acoustic pedal board. Dude could not play without a capo, and couldn't play any chords up the neck, and didn't know how to arpeggiate a chord or even palm mute while playing rhythm and had no interest in learning. Complete waste of money and time.
Lineville65
Tele-Meister
We’re all human. The “How many lead guitar players does it take to screw in a light bulb.”
Ascension
Tele-Afflicted
Yep Modern Worship players are some of the worst at being cork sniffing gear snobs. Walked away from most of the larger Worship guitar site because of it can't stand the sheer arrogance of it all. I'm old enough to remember when being a Worship player was about the worship not being a rock star. I hate most of the tones used today in modern worship these guys spend mega bucks on a high end guitar then fight to see how much they can make it sound like anything BUT a guitar.
Don't get me wrong there are a few REALLY killer worship groups out there but---.
ravindave_3600
Friend of Leo's
In the last six weeks in church I've played 2 teles (1 standard, one w a bucker in the neck), a strat, an epiphone dot, and Gibson 185. I love them all and played them particular weeks because I liked the way they sounded in that group of songs, but the truth is I could get by with any 1 of the 4 electrics, plus the Gib.
("What's your point, Ravindave?")
Just that I'm ridiculously blessed even without a $4000 guitar and (being honest again) I'd put the sound and feel of my collection up against a lot of other more expensive ones. You might feel the same way about your herd.
I'm not going to criticize someone else if God's blessed him with a fancy guitar. I think it's unnecessary but it's not really my call, is it? I'm reminded of Proverbs 30:8-9...
"Give me neither poverty nor riches, but give me only my daily bread. Otherwise, I may have too much and disown you and say, ‘Who is the LORD?’ Or I may become poor and steal, and so dishonor the name of my God."
("What's your point, Ravindave?")
Just that I'm ridiculously blessed even without a $4000 guitar and (being honest again) I'd put the sound and feel of my collection up against a lot of other more expensive ones. You might feel the same way about your herd.
I'm not going to criticize someone else if God's blessed him with a fancy guitar. I think it's unnecessary but it's not really my call, is it? I'm reminded of Proverbs 30:8-9...
"Give me neither poverty nor riches, but give me only my daily bread. Otherwise, I may have too much and disown you and say, ‘Who is the LORD?’ Or I may become poor and steal, and so dishonor the name of my God."
Dreadnut
Friend of Leo's
How much you spend on your guitar is your own business. I tend to not chase after really pricey guitars, but I do have some nice ones in the stable. Ultimately, I have come to the conclusion that bling doesn't make them sound any better.
Whatever you play, the focus should be on worship, not on you. I've played with guitarists who have deluxe, costly instruments and lots of skill, but they were really into themselves.
I've also played with amateurs who have what I would consider crappy guitars, but their heart is into worship and their desire is not so much to be noticed for their guitar playing.
I would much rather make music with the latter group.
Whatever you play, the focus should be on worship, not on you. I've played with guitarists who have deluxe, costly instruments and lots of skill, but they were really into themselves.
I've also played with amateurs who have what I would consider crappy guitars, but their heart is into worship and their desire is not so much to be noticed for their guitar playing.
I would much rather make music with the latter group.
scooteraz
Friend of Leo's
I think of every guitar as a tool. Whether some sort of custom shop or a partscaster. The guitar at the beginning of the thread doesn’t particularly appeal to me, but if it does to someone and inspires them to play better, then good on them.
I don’t remember a thread about this:
https://shop.fender.com/en-US/elect...lincoln-brewster-stratocaster/0116502778.html
Now admittedly, it is half the price of the Grestch, but it is probably less than half as much to make. And if LB authorized a CS or a Masterbuilt Strat, would we be having the same conversation? IDK.
I don’t remember a thread about this:
https://shop.fender.com/en-US/elect...lincoln-brewster-stratocaster/0116502778.html
Now admittedly, it is half the price of the Grestch, but it is probably less than half as much to make. And if LB authorized a CS or a Masterbuilt Strat, would we be having the same conversation? IDK.
