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Won't end the debate

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by ce24, Nov 27, 2020.

  1. Frodebro

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    My band did 150+ nights a year over a four year run. Lyrics were forgotten, bum notes happened, but it was never a showstopper. Some of the best moments were when somebody ad-libbed their way through a verse.
     
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    I’m terrible at remembering lyrics and chords. But then, I don’t play live very often, anyway (especially these days). And when I do, it’s usually just a few songs. So it’s never a big problem. On the other hand, maybe if I did 150 shows a year, I’d be better. But anyway, I can totally understand how you’d want to use something like a teleprompter. And as long as it’s not too obvious, I don’t have a problem with it.
     
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    Watched this the other day, even DB needs to get prompts for his older lyrics... which he clearly admits to here...

     
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    I think some performers really hate that old "stuff" that sold so well, since in many ways they've moved on perhaps they wished the fans would stay up with the present.

    I know Paul has at least one CD from the 1990s he wishes he could forget ever happened, at all.
     
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    notmyusualuserid Friend of Leo's

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    Some posters have obviously never done any live gigs...
     
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    Teleprompter, yes. Music stand, no.
     
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    one does have to make allowances for doddering geezers
     
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    I just can't wait for the met to finally hire some professionals who can put those music stands away.
     
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    jrblue Friend of Leo's

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    Everybody gets lazy, because life offers other, more exciting things to do. You can memorize, practice out loud, review, and practice some more, or you can use notes. This is an important reminder that at some point, lots of stuff becomes about money and time, not about connecting with every listener, or, even, art or music. It's commerce. Eff you... I'm not spending the night memorizing and practicing... I don't have to! Of course the teleprompter stuff absolutely undercuts sincerity, but in 2020, who's really hung up on sincerity or work ethic anymore? Everyone's taking the shortcut when they can. I'm reading off a teleprompter as I write this post.
     
  10. sonicsmitty

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    I wanna see reliced music stands and reliced clip-on tuners!!
     
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    I think music stands, or the modern technical equivalent thereof, look unprofessional, and make me think someone didn't care enough to prepare for the event.

    In the case of Paul McCartney however,
    I think music stands, or the modern technical equivalent thereof, look unprofessional, and make me think someone didn't care enough to prepare for the event.
     
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    Yeah but is it still stand up comedy if you're sitting down?
     
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    I played a gig tonight. I am happy to report I did not forget any lyrics. I do ad-lib a few; "You got your hair pulled back and your little bitty bikini on." (Boys of Summer)
     
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    I saw the Rolling Stones in Nashville around 1972. Mick Jagger said it was good to be in Georgia.
     
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    Possibly because they were back in the day. And that was a long time ago.
     
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    What about the tottering ones?
     
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    Well, Paul McCartney has a bit more of a rep than I, so I'm not sure this is so relevant to us little guys. Music stands just don't belong on a rock n roll stage because they are just not rock n roll - if you can't memorize Satisfaction and Hey Joe, you got bigger problems. When you get famous enough to afford a teleprompter, go ahead and do your thing. There are memorization tricks that work and it's worth it if you care about your stage presence. I've used an Ipad for set lists and a few "first lines of the verses" pages when I've needed to, it's at least a lot less intrusive and obvious than a music stand. And if you play behind a music stand the audience can't see your fingers go up and down the fretboard real fast, which is mostly how people judge your guitar skills after all.
     
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    I remember the lyrics, chords, and lead lines to most of the songs I wrote...but Cranial Gas catches up to all of us, and if I have a hard time remembering the lyrics or chords to a song I wrote, maybe recorded (maybe not) and maybe played on a few gigs twenty-plus years ago, I’m gonna have them somewhere in reach...and I’m only 50.

    Macca is thirty years older than me...give him a break.
     
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    Maybe, but we would rather do 150 songs and rotate them than the same 25 songs over and over that we could memorize perfectly. I'm for lots of different songs and being in tune rather than looking "professional" by not having cheat sheets and clip on tuners on the back of our headstocks. I would also rather see/hear a band in tune and playing different songs if i see them more than once. Just me, ommv of course.
     
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