justusberlin
Tele-Meister
cant wrap my head around it. Most seem to connect 1 cap to both tone pots but older schematics have 1 each. is there any difference, if not why would you use 2?
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Wiring question: is there a difference between 1 Cap for each Tone Pot vs. 1 Cap for both
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What guitar are you talking about? Seems to me that Tele's and Strat's have always had one, and Les Pauls two.
as mentioned above it depends on the pick up format < I wired all my strats with 1 TBX tone control for the whole guitar works for me , My epiphone dot studio has 1 volume , 1 tone, 1-3way switch , just perfect for me , my les pauls, SGs , 335, firebird are 2 P/U ,2 tone ,2 volume. reminds me of the on board pedal dance , dialing tones that no one cares about when playing live .
some early telecasters had interesting wirings totally outside the realm of the standatd today accepted wirings using different caps to get a specific tone , Fender first released the tele as an electric spanish guitar, to sell them to schools as atudent market complete with a very small amp.
justusberlin
Tele-Meister
3 singlecoils, Strat
saw the 2 cap config on quite a few custom shop loaded pickguards (from Stratosphere parts)
saw the 2 cap config on quite a few custom shop loaded pickguards (from Stratosphere parts)
AAT65
Poster Extraordinaire
It makes no difference when you’re in the middle or neck positions - someone at Fender worked out it doesn’t matter if you switch the pot and use the same cap and it saves a few cents so that’s how most Strats are wired.
Where it makes a slight difference is in the middle + neck position… with two caps you’ll have both caps as well as both pots in the circuit, which will tend to take the highs off more. So I think the traditional one-cap approach is better (but still not as good as single master tone would be
).
sjtalon
Doctor of Teleocity
Only if you want two values there (different control of each pot respective to the pups they effect)
Otherwise, caps don't make the "tone", only a tool the pot uses in how it SHAPES the tone as you turn the pot...........higher value, more high freq's rolled off as you tighten it.
Otherwise, caps don't make the "tone", only a tool the pot uses in how it SHAPES the tone as you turn the pot...........higher value, more high freq's rolled off as you tighten it.
justusberlin
Tele-Meister
@AAT65 and @sjtalon awesome thank you very much!
does the value of the cap affect the tone when the Tone Control is set at 10 (it would not with a no-load pot) but what about regular 250k log pots?
P.S.: just found a post from @sjtalon from 2014 which answersit: "Just remember the cap (or pot really) doesn't really do jack anyway when the pot is at 10 anyway."
does the value of the cap affect the tone when the Tone Control is set at 10 (it would not with a no-load pot) but what about regular 250k log pots?
P.S.: just found a post from @sjtalon from 2014 which answersit: "Just remember the cap (or pot really) doesn't really do jack anyway when the pot is at 10 anyway."
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AAT65
Poster Extraordinaire
Well, people say that, but it ain’t so, strictly speaking. With a normal pot you still have a resistance (the max pot value, 250k typically) and the capacitance loading the output. There wouldn’t be any point in no-load pots if the cap wasn’t doing something at 10.
However - it isn’t doing much! The biggest impact of the cap value is as you roll the tone down.
Zepfan
Doctor of Teleocity
I prefer 1 vol and 1 tone for each pickup so I can dial in the way I want each pickup to sound.
On a Strat, I put 1 tone on the neck pickup and 1 tone on the bridge pickup. I usually use 1 cap though between the 2 tone pots(.047).
On a Strat, I put 1 tone on the neck pickup and 1 tone on the bridge pickup. I usually use 1 cap though between the 2 tone pots(.047).
sjtalon
Doctor of Teleocity
True, and on paper, electrically ect., Purests and the electrical engineer doctorate dudes will eat you up on that one.
What I say to that is what matters is what one's EARS perceive, as well as if they can tell the difference, does it matter?
Any changes in components can naturally be argued as to them doing something.
However in a true A/B blind test, we are talking about a DIFFERENCE, and that gets you into subjective/opinion territory.
Does the difference matter to the OWNER? Id ist, it seems so slight to not mean jack.
Is the change for the better?
Does the change make it worse?
You decide, as I always say, YOUR geeter, YOUR ears.
And they sell no-load pots because.........................people will buy them
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