Wiring pedalboard insert jacks

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  1. OldManAP

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    I hope this is the right place for this question.

    I’ve searched all over the internet and I’ve found some info on similar situations, but nothing exactly like what I need, and I just can’t seem to understand what I need to do.

    I’m about to rewire my board, and I need an insert point in the middle of the signal chain for a volume pedal offboard (because I’m using the same board for guitar and pedal steel). I want the signal to automatically pass through when nothing is plugged into these jacks. I believe what I need is called “switching jacks”, but I don’t know how to wire them.

    I also want a master input and output jack on the side of the board, and I’m assuming I just need regular TS jacks for that. For ALL of these (in from guitar, out to amp, send to volume pedal, and return from volume pedal) I would prefer to hard wire them to the cable rather than have a dual sided jack thing.

    So my questions are, how to wire the switching jacks to be “full-normalled” (am I using that term correctly). And do I need to wire any of those jacks to a ground point (the board itself is all wood)? And am I better off using enclosed or open frame jacks?

    Any advice is greatly appreciated!
     
  2. Si G X

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    No idea about the 'pass through when not plugged in' thing... but the grounds on the jacks will need to be connected to each other, so the ground on the cable can remain unbroken (if you see what I mean?) in the same way your signal has to continual through all the jacks, pedals and cables, the ground has to do the same.
     
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    ... for the other thing... I would just use a patch cable when you don't want to insert anything. But if it can be done your way, that sounds a better way to do it.
     
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    I use solderless connectors which which have a face mount with screw holes for all of these connections. The thing I don't know is if they are switched or not, but it would be easy to make a plug with the tip and ring nodes soldered together to plug in when you don't use the volume pedal.

    Check out these guys: https://pedalboardshop.com/product-category/jacks/
     
  5. Si G X

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    sorry I didn't explain that well...


    so on your board input, you'd have your regular mono socket then you'd have a bit of guitar cable going to your first pedal, a regular TS jack going into that, the other end of the cable you'd just solder the cable to the tip (signal) and ring (ground) connections on the socket, do the same on the way out.
     
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    ostensibly you could do this with a minimum of a shorting jack and a regular jack. use the shorting jack in the "to volume pedal" position. signal is wired to the tip terminal, the short terminal is wired to the tip terminal of the regular jack in the "from volume pedal" position. done.

    ideally, you'd want two shorting jacks with the short terminals connected and the rest wired normally. that way you can't inadvertantly have anything happen if the "to volume pedal" has nothing inserted but the "from volume pedal" does
     
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