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Wiring help for guitar I'm building

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by gitlvr, Feb 26, 2021.

  1. gitlvr

    gitlvr Friend of Leo's

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    Hi all,
    I'm building a strat-ish guitar, three single coil.
    I want to do one volume, one tone, and a three way toggle, not blade. I want the toggle to choose each pickup independently. No position 2 or 4. I am not certain if I can or how I can wire a three way toggle to choose just the middle pickup in the center position. Is this possible?
     
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    That's a nice little switch, and I have some similar. But is it big enough to be a main control switch? there's a lot more substance in a Gibson toggle, or a Strat or Tele blade switches.
     
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    I saw some Gibson style Toggles that were not the "Mini", that are On-On-On. The hard part is wiring in sequence to the Pots. I don't have a Clue?
     
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    I don’t think you can do it with a 2-pole on-on-on I am afraid. Not sure if you can find a toggle-style which is a true SP3T which is what you need.
     
  6. crazydave911

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    Uh, the original Strat switches were like that, neck, middle and bridge. And all 3 pickups alike, no reverse wound middle. My favorite Strat actually, made for 8 years IIRC. Now whether you can still get those switches I haven't a clue, I handle it slightly differently. With single coils I either do a standard Tele harness with a small switch added to the main hot wire so as to have the middle with any switch position. I especially do this with rail humbuckers. With single coils however there is another more exciting option. Use a DPDT switch for series with the bridge or neck for a gnarly humbucker type combo :)

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    First example given

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    Second example given

    Although you may note I am/can use this with the standard 5 way switch. The reason being I can either have standard Strat selections or with a full scale bridge and middle in series for gnarly tones. In my example shown however that is a mini Strat so I'm doing neck and middle in series. I put the switch in where the first tone pot was then the now master tone I simply hook to the volume pot as normal instead of through the switch. I generally get my harnesses from GFS and the switches from Stew Mac. Never had a bad one of either so I stick with it. I have also, in the case of the mini Strat used the harness already there. Instead of almost no options you have many. Now I have done the Bass VI setup (3 switches?) and the Brian May setup of 6 switches :eek: and trust me, life is to short and as the genius Elon Musk says about his rockets, "The Best part is NO part" ;)


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    You can go to an electronics store and get a batt switch for that configuration. 3 way latching
     
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    Would this work? Superseded. See post 12
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    You can't use a gibson style switch.
    You can't use a dpdt switch either this is how they work:
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    You can use a regular tele blade switch.
     
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    Revised
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    I know you didn't ask - but for a strat style guitar think about a "blender" pot.
    This allows you to dial in a variable amount of the bridge pup when the switch is on neck position, and vice versa.
    I love the neck pickup with just a skosche of bridge.
     
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    you can use an on-on-on!
    diagram to follow...
     
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    ......like this, in schematic and wiring diagram versions.

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    In the middle position, the switch connects down on the left and up on the right side when looking at the back.

    Add pots to taste.
     
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    besides the old style Strat switch there is also a 4 pole 3 position blade switch made by Goldo. each pup has its own track, with one to spare. it would give you some real room to experiment if you didn't like what you have. make a new pickguard


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    another option is a rotary switch
     
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    P.S.... standard diodes need about .7 volts to work.... even a Schottky diode need 200-400mV. a single coil pickup makes 200-300mV. and oh yeah... the guitar output is AC
     
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    Thanks. I didn't consider minimum voltage. I didn't need to be concerned about it when using diodes in stomp boxes, tube amps and motorcycles!
     
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    Thanks, folks!
     
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