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Wiring diagram for strat with only neck and bridge pickup and 3 way switch

Discussion in 'Tele-Technical' started by toonskeez, Sep 23, 2020.

  1. Sep 23, 2020 #1
    toonskeez

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    My latest guitar build will have strat style set up, but with 3 way fender switch (as opposed to 5 way) and only neck and bridge pickups. I'm going to have one volume control and a tone for neck and a tone for bridge.

    I'm going to install a mini 2 way (on/on) toggle to switch phase of the neck pickup.
    I'm also going to have a kinman style treble bleed on the volume control.

    I know how to wire up the treble bleed, and also the neck pickup to the the 2 way mini toggle and how to wire up the mini toggle switch, but would appreciate a diagram showing how everything else is wired up.

    I'm sure it's not too complicated, but I'd rather not f*ck it up and have to de-solder stuff.
     
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    Vermoulian

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    What you're describing is basic Tele wiring. The same wires go to the same places.

    EDIT: Sorry, I missed that you have two tone pots.
     
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    Digital Larry

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    Well, except for two tone controls. I don't see how you're going to keep those from interacting when in the middle position (which may not matter). Assuming my calculations are correct Captain, they will add together and be darker than either by itself.
     
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    Dan_Pomykalski

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    That actually sounds kind of cool...
     
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    tfarny

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    Send the hots to the tone controls before they head to the pickup selector. The neck will go phase switch ->tone -> selector switch, and from their to the MV and out.
     
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  7. Sep 23, 2020 #7
    toonskeez

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    Crap. I just realized I haven't thought this through.
    I guess a 3 way tele type blade switch only allows for one volume and one tone right?
    I didn't get enough sleep last night :(
    If that's the case, I'll just go with one master volume and one master tone and maybe stick the mini toggle switch between them or below the tone pot.
     
  8. Sep 23, 2020 #8
    Dan_Pomykalski

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    I think you should be able to wire each tone control to an individual pickup?
     
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    here are 2 strat wirings using the same basic consept as you describe , both of these diagrams have the middle pick up removed from the 3 way switch and uses the first tone pot to blend the mid pickup as much as desired that can be modified in your case , if these help have at it , and have fun tweeking the idea.

    strat wire.jpeg

    the second diagram uses a TBX tone config for the whole guitar and is how I wired my strats . it works well for me!

    wiring 1.jpg
     
  10. Sep 23, 2020 #10
    garrett

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    This, or connect the tone pots to the same lug as the corresponding pickup, as below. Put your phase switch between the neck pickup and the blade.

    Yes, you'll have more of a load in the middle position, which is no different from a vintage-wired Strat in position 4. You can always use no-load pots to take one or both of the tone controls out of the circuit for more sparkle.

    [​IMG]
     
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    toonskeez

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    Thanks Dan. That diagram seems simple enough.
    Regarding 'Stage 1' of that diagram (the top section), as I will only have connections from neck and bridge pickup (I'm not going to have any middle pickup), I presume neck will go to 3 and bridge will to to 1 yes?
    And then on the 'Stage 2' (bottom section), 3 will go to neck tone and 1 will go to bridge tone?
    And then number 2 on top and bottom would be left alone?
     
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    stormin1155

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    Here ya go....

    [​IMG]
     
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    Dan_Pomykalski

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    I’m not going to lie, I have no idea off the top of my head, haha. I’d just wire it up like a Telecaster like other people have beeb mentioning.
     
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    toonskeez

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    Cheers dude
     
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    Just one question: I presume I have to ground that extra tone pot to either the volume pot or the other tone pot?
     
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    toonskeez

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    Yes? No?
     
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    garrett

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    Yes. If your pickguard is shielded, you don't need those ground jumpers since the pots will all be grounded anyway.
     
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    toonskeez

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    Ah cool, thanks. I'm gonna shield the pickguard, so less soldering.
     
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