Will today's and future generations know the difference between "British Invasion" and classic American rock bands? Will they think it matters?

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The 'Youth of Today' just seem to cherry pick music from all eras, mix it together & think they have something 'new'.
They don't seem to know or care where or when it originated.
That's why there has been no teenage musical movements since Grunge. And it was named by a British journalist!
And even then, what were the fans? Grungers, Grungists, Grunge Rockers?
The term "BeBop" was coined by the trad jazzers as an insult to the modern jazz player's and their music. They took the term and made it their own. Funny where some things start and where they end up.
 

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My bad, let me be clearer about what I'm trying to say. I think this thread is legit, but the bottom line is that we shouldn't expect future generations to care about the same things we may have cared about. We can't will or force them to care.

These time spans have been pointed out before: The British Invasion started around 1964, about 58 years ago. Go 58 years before 1964 and you are at 1906. Who in 1964 cared about the most popular song of 1906 (Wait 'Till the Sun Shines, Nellie)?
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I went to a rave once, it was crazy, like an open air human zoo. Might not have been on the right stuff. But i also saw human zoos in rock and roll gigs.


Seen this band lately.

Audience was somewhat older than at the 90s New Year's. Maybe too artistic/intellectual? I don't know. I think I saw one guy who was at both, looks in his 20s and dressed very 70s.
 

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Seen this band lately.

Audience was somewhat older than at the 90s New Year's. Maybe too artistic/intellectual? I don't know. I think I saw one guy who was at both, looks in his 20s and dressed very 70s.

That is some weird music. I can't say i like it, but the it is properly done.
 

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You have to watch the whole videos to get the point, it can be the opposite of what you may think when you just see the beginning.

Well it doesn't make it for me. I watched the whole thing, and perharps not for me. I don't get it. My bad.

edit could you try to explain a bit the meaning ?
 

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Well it doesn't make it for me. I watched the whole thing, and perharps not for me. I don't get it. My bad.

edit could you try to explain a bit the meaning ?
They look like xenophobic skinheads going into the school with refugees. Looks like they want to beat them up (but don't really). Refugees rise up, looks like they want to fight. But then they dance together. School officials come and panic.

At the end, Russians (and other peoples from Russia, Asians) marching, holding up a piece of Earth with a guy with Asian features holding a flag. Sings about "honorable nation".

Of course, it's all artistic, and even the singer makes no comments, maybe also to avoid getting in trouble. The first video I posted was from 2021, seen as kind of prophetic and the shootings at the end actually happened later, and could be even more controversial.
 

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Music didn’t start in the 1950s. Do most Gen Xers and Boomers similarly understand jazz or what came before “their” music? I’ve met relatively few
Reminds me of when John Lennon famously said "Before Elvis, there was nothing." But I think he was trying to get to Paul, whose dad had been a traditional jazz musician in the 1920s and maybe 1930s.
 

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Usually, when I need a cold shower, I go to a page like this:

And immediately I find answers to many questions..
"British invasion" vs American rock? - seems not to matter to anyone
Rock in general? - seems not to be a top choice
Guitar? - yep, still there

Music and audiences move on, we don't necessarily keep up I guess. :)
 

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I'm a Gen X my first records bought were 2nd wave punk (Clash SLF), I took up the guitar in '76 after a childhood of guitar obsession.

I had no idea about any British Invasion until my late teens (mid 1980s), I even thought Eric Clapton was an American until the mid 1980s. I had no interest in that style/genre of music back then and probably only heard about it via other guitar playing friends.
I doubt if I'll ever have an interest in either British Invasion music or American Classic Rock, with the exception of one or two artist I've found indirectly.

I'm aware that these genres of music make up for a large proportion of a certain demographic of guitar players, the majority possibly, but it only represents a mere blinking of the eye in the development of guitar playing.
I don't think it's place as some kind of legacy genre for guitarists could be reasonably expected or warranted for any future generations. Guitars are better than that.
It's overrated enough as it is IMO.
 
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