Why So Few Hardtail Strats?

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  1. artdecade

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    Have you ever looked at the Mod Shop?
    You can get a Strat hard tail in any color. I decided you wanted sunset metallic. I also decided you wanted reverse stock. I sensed you wanted uncovered humbuckers. Am I right?

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    Honestly...just build one yourself with the options you want. That is what I am doing for my next build after this current one. You can probably build a really nice one with whatever special appointments you might want for less than you can get a real hard-tail.
     
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    I’ve owned numerous Stratocaster guitars but only one was a hard tail.
    I decked all the tremolo guitars and tightened the claw screws and increased the number of springs to 5.
    I liked the hard tail, but is seemed to lack some tonal quality that the others had. Even when I swapped complete pick guard assemblies amongst the herd.
    I spent hours fantasizing about adding a Tele bridge and Tele pups etc...and making it into a Strato/Tele type thing. Then decided to just play my Tele.
    I eventually sold it unmodified to a young guy who needed a good deal on a good guitar.
     
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    For years I avoided trems. Now I’m good with it and even stepped into the Bigsby world. I’ve always wondered why there wasn’t a Standard Hardtail strat model right along with the rest. Boggles my mind. Seems like such a lost opportunity all these years.
     
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    All of my Strats are decked--just sound and feel better to me that way--and have always wanted to try a Robert Cray sig model.
     
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    I owned a Robert Cray and A/Bd it to my 08 AM Standard Tele. They sound nearly identical at the bridge and neck.
     
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    I would love to have a hardtail Strat, but unfortunately “My Perfect Strat” was equipped with a tremolo...therefore, I decked it and blocked it with a small stack of quarters (vintage tone quarters only) and was very happy with the results.

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    I don’t see myself ever buying another Strat, but in the words of Sean Connery, “Never Say Never Again.”
     
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    They are indeed scarce!
    You can always order em’, but that’s a PITA.
    I own a nice Warmoth hardtail Strat.
    I’m actively seeking another, with traditional, but hum cancelling pickups.
    It doesn’t have to be made by the big F, I have two “real” Strats.
    I’m more of a Tele guy, but a good hardtail Strat is a cool thing!
     
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    Yes few offerings.

    I blocked mine solid and pulled all the springs & claw.

    I would just like 6 flush ferrules on the back side rather than a plate( or worse a giant gaping hole.)
     
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    Current topic with me.

    I have a Vintage V6 strat with a Wilkinson trem. Used to be my main gigging guitar. It's set floating...I can do Jeff Beck's Where Were You with it... and it's great. In the past I tried blocking the trem but this guitar is much better set floating.
    I also have a red Harley Benton strat with a maple fretboard that I got to play Shadows songs. It's nice but a bit weighty....8 pounds plus. Put a Wilkinson trem in that too and Wilkinson vintage pickups. Somehow I couldn't get it to really sing....until I decked the trem. Hard....with a block of wood. Now it's excellent. Sounds very 'solid' and tight, sort of.

    So I'm very curious now about getting a hardtail strat....a lighter one. I really fancy a white one, so there might be a Bullet out there with my name on it.
     
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    as it happens i was chatting with Leo on the ouija board the other day about this very matter and he mentioned your name!
     
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    I'm on Reverb looking for Vintage Tone Quarters. That's awesome.
     
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    I have a Robert Cray with Warmoth neck (a Craykenstein) and a Squier '51 Vintage Modified. I've just always prefered hardtail strats.
     
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    I went looking for a donor Strat to put a hardtail body on but the prices are very high these days. I found a mediocre at best MIM in a pawn shop... it had an 800.00 price tag on it..... I passed. I think we are suffering a gear shortage.

    That Robert Cray model is around 1000.00. By the time I sourced all of the parts, I would probably be right at that cost with no donor.
     
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    That tele bridge is what I want to do with my 79 lead II

    For some reason people like the wang...bar
     
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    I am definitely not looking for a humbucker Strat..... I am well in the 3 single PU Strat camp. I have heard the hardtail is a bit more woody sounding opposed to decking the trem...... I don’t know about that but I know I don’t like chasing the trem on bends.
     
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    Leo and Freddie Tavares are turning over in their graves!
     
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    Leo thought the Jazzmaster Vibrato was an improvement over the Strat’s, though...

    Although I think he finally topped it with the G&L trems.
     
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