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Why does Fender Lacquer smell so good?

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by schoolie, Nov 25, 2020.

  1. schoolie

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    It's one of my favorite scents, the smell of a new Fender nitro-finished guitar. Hard to describe, but sort of a sweet mix of vanilla and rosewood. I've finished guitars with watco, reranch, color tone, Mohawk. Never smells anything like this. Does anybody know what gives off this smell?
     
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    Gotta love that fresh lacquer smell!
     
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    You picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
     
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    I picked up a car from the body shop once and said to the receptionist, "Is it wrong that I love that smell?" She said, "Yes, it is." Not lacquer-related, but makes me smile about things I say out loud and probably shouldn't.
     
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    I’m new to the phenomenon. I thought it was the case.
     
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    You know, it might be the smell of the new case. Not sure. Whatever it is I want an air freshener with that scent.
     
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    Those G&G cases smell really nice. And new Fender amps!
     
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    You know what smell knocks my socks off? A brand new mahogany Martin.
     
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    For me, Fender's is ok, but I would burn a candle that smelled like a new Gibson.
     
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    I must agree:) My new BJ, AVRI Tele, 57 Deluxe reissue, 2016 Les Paul Special and friends 2000 AS Strat, they all smell this amazing vanilla sweet smell:rolleyes: After lot of googling i think it´s nitro or rather glue used in guitar cases and combos:rolleyes:
     
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    Taste good too.
     
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    My HD-28 still smells great after twenty-two years.
     
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    It must be the twang oil.
     
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    Bought a strat in '96 and oh that smell is still in the case. Mmmmm
     
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    Only nitro guitar I have is les paul . I think it smells like playdough from the 60s.
    Which makes me wonder what they put in it back then.
     
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    If you can smell the finish you need new filters in your respirator.

    Oh, wait, you mean after the fact.

    Well I am not a fan of nitro finishes so I don't share the feeling, but I saw mahagony Martins menitoned. I got one a few years back and yeah, every time I walked into the room I coudl smell it. The scent has since calmed down so it doens't fill the room anymore, but yeah I like that smell.
     
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    I'm going with the case glue, not the NC lacquer. The reason I say it's not the NC finish is because I've worked around NC solutions for around 35 years, and I can tell you that the smell being described, and the smell I get from new NC lacquered guitars I've owned, does not smell like any solvent used to dissolve NC that I've ever encountered... not any ester, acetone/ketone, alcohol, or glycol ether, or any diluent used in NC coatings that I am familiar with. Plus, dry nitrocellulose has zero odor of its own. That said, it is entirely possible that the NC lacquer could be modified with another material, like a plasticizer, that has this pleasant odor, though not likely.

    BUT, the smell I get could very easily come from the case glue, and in fact, it could come from residual melamine or urea formaldehyde. It is a common formulating technique to make glue used from starch or protein (like a protein derived from milk called "casein," or soy protein, which can have an odor, and often, a not too pleasant one) and react it with a form of formaldehyde, in glues for guitar cases. Any unreacted formaldehyde will have a sweet odor. It is also possible the scent could be added into the glue, itself, to mask the odor of the glue, but this is an added expense.

    I am only making a guess... an educated one... but a guess, nevertheless.
     
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    The finishing compound maybe?
     
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    It's the lacquer. It smells like cake.
     
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    It doesn't have have to be new, I just got a partscaster put together with a Hod Rod 50's neck that's spent the last 3 years incarcerated in the shipping tube.
    It still had it when I finally pulled it out...
     
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