That's not the argument. Do any of you're "plenty of guys" play un-mic'ed with a clean sound using their small amps? If the material they are playing does not require a clean sound - Then that's a different story. The point is small amps have their place and I agree. But, if you need clean headroom for Funk, Motown and Dance stuff you have to look elsewhere. I tried with a Victoria 35210 Super and it didn't work. Do they make a better one maybe with only 20 watts? Wow. And I thought this was Guitar 101???