Why aren't Firebird bodies flush?

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  1. thesamhill

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    I mean, it looks pretty cool so that's a good reason. Is it just because it looks cool? It seems odd to say, "hey, make me a neck-through Explorer but make the pointy parts rounder and glue the body unevenly."

    If you play a Firebird, do you ever notice that little shelf?



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    That’s the neck in the middle, goes all the way through

    Wrote before I read

    I’ve never payed much attention to it on mine

    The Firebird was designed by car designer Ray Dietrich, hence the 50’s car fin shape

    I think it’s a thing of beauty and one of the sexiest guitars ever

    Firebird studios have the one piece body, just doesn’t look right to me
     
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    Yeah, it's a neck-thru design, so it probably needs a thicker piece for the neck, and they made the wings thinner to be lighter and more comfy than if they were as thick as the center piece.
     
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    I have only ever played one firebird, but have had a lot of time on T-bird basses. I think the raised center section makes the bass easier to play. I always dream of making a carved top t-bird bass that slopes down to the wings instead of stepping down. I think it would look cool. But more importantly I would like to figure out how to fix the neck dive in the design/build on those basses...
     
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    I haven’t ever played a Firebird, but I love to rest my thumb on the ridge when I play my Thunderbird (which isn’t often, because its playability and looks are on two opposite ends of the spectrum...).
     
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    Gibson got a bit nutty with design for a while, it's a design feature.
    Good for them!
     
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    Firebirds are beasts!
    As mentioned above, the variations of the original FB without the thinner wings just ain't the same, though the non reverse bodies are excused
     
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    a gentle slope from the hgh section to the lower section might be nice. I just don't know about those right angles?

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    oh that's a wonderful family portrait. good for you.
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    Only thing is, the SG just moved out of home!
     
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    The Firebird V standard is neck through, and the middle portion is actually 9 plies. mahogany, walnut, mahogany, walnut, mahogany, walnut, mahogany, walnut, and finally, mahogany. The outside parts are just mahogany wings, glued to the center/neck piece. Hard to play for me, because I am small, and the neck is about 2" further left than all my other guitars. It's sure nice for picking at the 12th fret, and higher though, the neck is right where you want it for that!
     
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    Isn't it the same theory as a lot of guitar designs?

    Raise the strings so they are clear of obstructions when strumming (or doing Pete Townsend windmills ) .

    Les Paul carved top, PRS carved top, most es335/339, etc.

    I thought flat tops were just a cheaper, cost cutting thing.
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    That is true. Leo and co. went with a flat slab to simplify production and keep costs down.
     
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    That photo in the OP is the sexiest Firebird picture I have ever seen. That is really cool.
     
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    I have a Thunderbird bass but really haven't paid any attention to that. Mine's all white so it's barely noticeable anyway.
     
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    I’ve always liked the red one.

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    Looked like they finally wanted to get away from that violin design and just use a nice flat slab, great idea !
     
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    • had a firebird for a short time and it was a great guitar but the guitar was forever falling over. a tip for any one gigging with one is to make a stand for it. in the end it tipped over at one gig and snapped the end of the headstock which i fixed ok but sadly it was time for it to go love the mini hums on these guitars.
     
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    I had a Reverend Warhawk that had the same kind of raised ridge for the strings and honestly never noticed the ridge, so it must have never made a difference whatsoever. I sold it a while back and now I'm a little sad about it!
     
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    @Ess Eff My dad played fiddle so I always associated a curved top with bowed instruments requiring that extra clearance. Didn't really think about needing that clearance on a guitar.

    I assumed the curved top and f holes on 335s, etc were something to do with leftover cello parts or something. But I hadn't actually thought about it (obviously).
     
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