Why aren't bass roll offs more common (like on G&L & Reverend)?

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  1. BCblues55

    BCblues55 Tele-Meister Gold Supporter

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    I rewired my Gretsch 5120 when I replaced the original pickups and while I was doing it, I put in a bass contour instead of having the Master Volume knob. It really cleans up the boominess if I want a cleaner tone. I’ve also had it in aLes Paul, and that really helped a lot. I wish more guitars had it, but yes, we are a traditional bunch.

    I also think Reverend has been (justifiably) stingy with details on how their control works. Joe Gore had a helpful article in Premier Guitar, but his hand-drawn wiring diagram confused me some, and it’s taken a couple of years to see clearer diagrams being posted (which they now are). Perhaps the control will be more common in a couple of years, as more and more people mod their guitars to include it.
     
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    The bass cut on Reverends has made me a convert to them

    (not to mention their general great quality to price ratio)
     
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    love the one on my Rev bayonet
     
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    I have two serious questions for folks who understand this topic. I have a Gretsch Anniversary with a mud switch. My individual volume controls roll off treble faster than volume but with the treble rolled down the guitar gets muddy. Is there a way to wire the mud switch for bass roll off? My other question is what is the advantage of bass roll off on the guitar over an equalizer pedal?
     
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    That was a big selling point for me. I had been looking for a PRS SE One for a while (tough to find) or a non-insanely-priced Gibson LP JR, but ended up with a Reverend Sensei Jr as my "light and handy" P90. The bass contour allows that one pickup to cover so much tonal ground - that I don't miss a neck PU at all.
     
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    Yamaha has a bass cut circuit in their Revstars that acts as a bass cut switch: https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/yamaha-dry-switch-wiring-trickery.1884480/ so it's possible that you might be able to mod a mud switch to act as a bass cut (it's a switch so you can't roll it off in the sense that you roll a tone knob).

    I find the advantage of the bass roll-off on the guitar is that the control is on my guitar and easier to manipulate on the fly. I'm hesitating to mod my 594 Soapbar to have a bass roll-off so I use my Pinball tilt-shift instead. It can roll-off bass frequencies and actually tilt the whole EQ to brighten up the pickups as well as act as a boost if desired. I'm finding that's enough added functionality to make that EQ pedal a better option than just a bass roll-off on the guitar.

    Edit: Whether it would be a good choice on a Gretsch probably depends on the amount of bass in the pickups you're using. I could imagine it working with a Hilotron or Powertron. But the lower output filtertrons seem like they might not have enough bass response for it to be worthwhile.
     
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