1. Win a Broadcaster or one of 3 Teles! The annual Supporting Member Giveaway is on. To enter Click Here. To see all the prizes and full details Click Here. To view the thread about the giveaway Click Here.

Why are used teles so expensive?

Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by Cedarburger, Dec 20, 2020.

  1. FenderT40

    FenderT40 TDPRI Member

    Age:
    75
    Posts:
    6
    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2020
    Location:
    Rio Rancho, NM
    I have a 2013 MIM tele and a 1991 MIM Strat for sale on craiglist right now, both priced reasonably.....I have had several calls on the Tele and none on the strat. As a financial advisor for 30 years the idea is to buy low sell high. Strats are a great deal right now if your a Strat player. As a guitar player, get the best deal for what you love to play...the tele is my baby. You will pay $400 to $550 for a compromised MIM tele and higher for super clean. Knock $200 off that for strats. It is a supply verses demand issue. I see lots of strats on CL and Reverb, but far fewer Teles. Teles are keepers. Also there are many cheap copies of strats, not so much for teles. I think I am going to change my prices today. Lower the strat raise the tele. LOL
     
  2. Buddhablue

    Buddhablue TDPRI Member Silver Supporter

    Age:
    67
    Posts:
    10
    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2018
    Location:
    Ohio
    *******************************************************
    the biggest reason is that so many people want them.
    (i'm not trying to be a smartass or anything, but it's the market that is driving it up.)

    for me, i'm mostly a tele/tele-like and i just can't get over the mexican teles.
    they feel as good, play as good, sound as good...
    plus, one of the last ones i got was to replace the pups on it with P-rails, so the pups weren't that important. (extra set of the wide-range humbuckers if anyone wants them)

    but, compare the used MIMs to the used MIAs, i'm sure they are still a bargain.
    dab
     
  3. goodcheaptele

    goodcheaptele Tele-Meister

    Posts:
    147
    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2009
    Location:
    CT
    It seems that used guitars and guitars in general are just way too costly. There was a time (back in the 1960's) when Fender and Gibson put all of their talent and skill into making "A" tele or strat, SG or Paul and it was the best quality they could offer for ONE FIXED PRICE. I bought a brand new tele in 1968 and paid $145 with case. THERE WERE NO BASIC TELES THEN SPECIAL TELES THEN DELUXE TELES THEN SUPER DUPER SUPERCALIFRAGILISTIC TELES!!!! No, it was ONE GOOD TELE FOR ONE DECENT PRICE. We now live in the "Baskin Robbins Era" where there are 50 versions of the same basic concept at increasing amounts of money. It is all plain BULL and don't get me started on the nonsense of ARTIST MODELS.
     
    anthony79 likes this.
  4. MilwMark

    MilwMark Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Posts:
    12,523
    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2013
    Location:
    near Arnold's
    The answer to this question for any product or service is literally always the same:

    Supply and demand.

    There are limited exceptions/distortions to this. Guitars are not one of them.

    I cannot understand why this question comes up so often and generates pages discussion.
     
  5. FortyEight

    FortyEight Tele-Afflicted

    Age:
    49
    Posts:
    1,075
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2020
    Location:
    Southeastern Wisconsin
    I wish I liked cheap strats. I just have a hard time finding tones I like....... Grrrrrrrr... I actually prefer the way they look and the smooth body. But I like the sounds of a Tele better and the feel overall. Even though I'd rather have a smoother body.

    Honestly, to me there is nothing like a Tele. I have a feeling other people feel the same way. I don't know if less Teles are made. It does seem like that is the case. But I agree that there are waaaaay less on the used market. Cheap strats are everywhere. But even with them the good strats aren't as prevalent for sale. More than Teles though. I think it's like cheap strats vs teles is about 10/1 and MIM or MIA strats vs teles it's about 6-8/1.

    That's my observations.
     
  6. Wrighty

    Wrighty Friend of Leo's

    Age:
    66
    Posts:
    4,014
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2013
    Location:
    Essex UK
    It does mean that Tele’s hold their value better. Like for like a Tele is the same price new as a Strat.
     
  7. Wrighty

    Wrighty Friend of Leo's

    Age:
    66
    Posts:
    4,014
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2013
    Location:
    Essex UK
    Us Brits have more or less cornered the market in sarcasm...................but we use it sparingly.
     
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2020
  8. Wrighty

    Wrighty Friend of Leo's

    Age:
    66
    Posts:
    4,014
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2013
    Location:
    Essex UK
    Yep, and then we compound the problem by ordering cheaply made stuff on line. As with the companies you describe above, the small shops go down the tubes first, then the corporate set ups. Slowly, the companies abroad that manufacture cheap, disposable kit to dump on the Western world, move up market. Started with Japan, remember when Japanese cars were dirt cheap? We were the first market they attacked, mainly because they didn’t need to move the steering wheels. They are now making top notch cars, Honda, Toyota etc., whilst the likes of Kia took over the cheap end and are now moving up market. Fender’s approach is ‘if you can’t beat ‘em join ‘em. Sound business practice. Have a foot in all of the quality levels and then hike all of the prices.

    The only reason China currently supply us with cheap, low quality goods at the moment is because it’s what we want from them. The are more than capable of making, and exporting, hi tech stuff.When tge time is deemed right, they’ll slowly ramp up the prices and quality incrementally.
     
  9. Tom Grattan

    Tom Grattan TDPRI Member Silver Supporter

    Age:
    74
    Posts:
    33
    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2020
    Location:
    California
  10. Tom Grattan

    Tom Grattan TDPRI Member Silver Supporter

    Age:
    74
    Posts:
    33
    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2020
    Location:
    California
    No used Tele's on CL??? https://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/msa?query=fender+telecaster Lot's of inventory here. Maybe broaden your CL search.
     
  11. fathand

    fathand TDPRI Member

    Posts:
    35
    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2019
    Location:
    Port Dover
    I just calculated my build at $91 Canadian. Admittedly, the ash was rescued from a firewood pile and hardware from China.
     

    Attached Files:

    davegodby and anthony79 like this.
  12. mmannaxx

    mmannaxx Tele-Meister

    Posts:
    234
    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2008
    Location:
    Ohio
    I think it must be a supply and demand issue. For longest time Teles didn’t seem very popular. I remember thinking “ am I the only person who plays a Tele?” Other th
    an a few country artists. Now Teles seem more prevalent. But generally over the decades Strats have been more popular and produced in greater quantities and still are. But, if Teles maintain their current popularity, then expect more to be made and be available so price could stabilize somewhat. However, a new variable is the diminished supply of swamp ash. Swamp ash is highly desired for transparent finish Teles. For looks and weight, many Tele fans want a lighter swamp ash body. In new production Fender Teles, to get that now you have to buy American and they start at around $2,000. Custom Sop starts at around $3,500! So, supply is now severely limited. Will Fender be able to figure out a solution? Who knows? Will northern ash be used more? It is definitely heavier, so maybe chambering will be used to reach an acceptable weight. Or maybe thinlines will become more popular. And is there a significant difference in tonal properties between swamp ash and northern ash? Not sure. All I know is the Tele thinline was originally designed as a way to decrease the weight of heavier ash that was increasingly being found to be what was available and that was 50 years ago!
    So, there may be an increase in Tele supply, but there will be a decrease in swamp ash Teles and those are the most desirable. Bottom line is the price of lighter weight swamp ash Teles should increase even if price on other Teles stabilizes or comes down.
     
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2020
  13. brians356

    brians356 Tele-Meister

    Posts:
    330
    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2011
    Location:
    Reno, NV
    Wow. I've got an MIA ~2005 Highway One Telecaster that I've been thinking about selling for a long time, but I figured I couldn't get much for it, so haven't bothered. It's a damn nice basic Tele, but I've got two Thinlines I gravitate towards, so it never comes out of the bag. Guess I oughta put it out there ...
    -
     
  14. BickertRules

    BickertRules NEW MEMBER!

    Age:
    59
    Posts:
    2
    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2020
    Location:
    Midwest
    I think when I checked awhile back a Tele from 1960 or so originally cost over $2000 in today’s dollars. So we have it pretty good, I think.

     
  15. DrBGood

    DrBGood Tele-Holic

    Posts:
    817
    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2015
    Location:
    Sutton QC, CANADA
    They're made with planks and building wood prices has gone through the roof in the past 6 months. So no surprise here.
     
  16. TheGreenHornet

    TheGreenHornet TDPRI Member

    Age:
    64
    Posts:
    15
    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2020
    Location:
    Zeeland, MI
     
  17. Clo-Motion

    Clo-Motion TDPRI Member

    Age:
    62
    Posts:
    3
    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2020
    Location:
    Clear Lake Texas
     
  18. Oldsmobum

    Oldsmobum Tele-Holic

    Age:
    34
    Posts:
    655
    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2020
    Location:
    SoCal
    most of those results aren’t even telecasters... pickups, speakers, Jaguars, strats, etc. In LA, the ones that were actually complete guitars, a huge chunk of listings are dealers, and many of the listings were for new guitars. There are probably 4x more strats than teles listed- easily enough to affect pricing.
     
  19. TheGreenHornet

    TheGreenHornet TDPRI Member

    Age:
    64
    Posts:
    15
    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2020
    Location:
    Zeeland, MI
    This suggestion might help. Consider buying a G&L. The guitar is made kor
     
  20. Clo-Motion

    Clo-Motion TDPRI Member

    Age:
    62
    Posts:
    3
    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2020
    Location:
    Clear Lake Texas
    Just go and play one of the new ones and perhaps a MIM or better yet a MIC TELE and you get your answer. Are you looking for something to upgrade? Or something ready to go. If it for upgrading and depending on how much new hardware you are considering using maybe a cheaper special edition Squire would be a cheaper place to start. The MIM OR MIC would probably require fewer items to replace. I would look at it both ways
     
IMPORTANT: Treat everyone here with respect, no matter how difficult!
No sex, drug, political, religion or hate discussion permitted here.