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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Fullerton Mike, Aug 17, 2020.
I'm glad someone mentioned Roger McGuinn. He was a studio guy and valued sideman before forming the Byrds. According to the book about the Wrecking Crew, he was the only member that the record label allowed to play with the crew on the first Byrds recordings.
Neil Finn rates highly, and I'm still sorting out how I feel about him joining Fleetwood Mac.
The other day, it occurred to me that Fleetwood Mac and Richard Thompson would have been a good fit. Another thread? Thompson is the first person I thought of when I looked at this thread.
First one that comes to mind is Glen Campbell.
I don’t know enough about his music to say for sure about his singing, but maybe John Mayer. He’s definitely elite on guitar.
I haven't been through the whole thread, but if Bonnie Raitt hadn't been mentioned, she has been now.
As for some earlier posts, Mark Knopfler? Great player, but he's the guy I aspire to sing like because he can't sing either, but makes it work well enough. But he's not a great singer by any stretch. And Keef? I love they guy, and his vocal can work pretty well in the right context, but an elite level vocalist he's not. Not even close.
Here's and underrated one, Rik Emmett. Yeah, the dude from Triumph.
Elite level guitarist AND elite level singer? It may not be your cup of tea, but Micheal Sweet from Stryper. He can shred with the best of them and his voice is incredible. He hasn't lost a step from their debut album. They still do their catalog in the keys that the albums were released in. He is arguably the hardest working man in the music business. Just in the last 10 years:
5 Stryper albums with the 6th one dropping on 09/04/20, 3 solo albums and 2 collaborative albums with George Lynch. All 10 albums are outstanding with Stryper's last 3 being the best of their career. He also toured with Boston and was asked to join the band by Tom Sholz. Him and maybe, Kotzen fit the bill perfectly, I see a lot of great guitarist who can sing here, but not sing at an elite level.
And many others
can he sing?
Justin Hawkins for sure!
Al did the main vocal on 'I Can Tell' from the Splendido Hotel album.
The vocal sounds a lot like Toto ...... it was recorded in 1979, released in 1980 .......
All the time.
One of my prefered songs from him.
Uh oh, what does elite mean?
Inspires fans to argue with conviction?
"Elite" in either category leaves most I see posted out IMHO. Maybe my version of 'Elite' is different than others I guess.
Elite in guitar only.... these come to mind: Robben Ford, SRV, Marty Stuart, Vince Gill, George Benson, Django Rinehart etc.
Elite in vocals is much harder. Means you better be nearly operatic in range to me and amazing at nuance and tone. Joni maybe. Jewel maybe.
Revision: I guess I've got that wrong. The Elite can also be just those at the top. Like the rich in society. Doesn't imply that there is anything good about them necessarily, they are just popular or rich. That's different than elite skills I guess. So yeah, anyone popular who sings in key and plays well.
Robert Cray. For me, the best.
Lee Roy Parnell.
Earl Thomas Conley, though not known much at all for his guitar playing.
Merle himself was a formidable guitarist, and a proficient fiddle player--although his fiddling always evoked a different era of music.
It's funny I've been listening to Dan Auerbach with curiosity, for the sake of his sort of stripping down to essentials solid vocals and guitar as The Black Keys.
But I saw him on ACL doing Country and was pretty badly disappointed.
I don't recall Triumph being subs for anyone.....At the time, I was wondering how they got such a nice time slot in the day above all the other acts(you forgot Quiet Riot), but then I came to find out that they were one of the favorite bands of Steve Wozniak.....The guy that put on the show. There was a long, long wait between the Scorpions and Van Halen......People were were starting to get angry and impatient. I would guess that it was a 2 hour wait. VH finally came on. It was the first time I had seen them; The stage and their sound was so big and majestic, but you're correct....There. was a drunken sloppiness element to their sound (probably other substances as well), although Alex played great, and EVH is EVH. I didn't see their full set-My friend was the one who drove and he wanted to leave before traffic became too extreme, so we left after we had seen 3/4 of their set. Later that year, Showtime cable put out an US Festival special w/ each band getting 3 songs: A lot of stuff on YT contains elements of this special. DLR and Alex edited the Van Halen footage (Running with The Devil/Pretty Woman/You Really got Me) to make it looked like they were the most liked, best band that day....This was not the case.