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Which cab for vox mv 50

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by markfresh, May 12, 2020.

  1. markfresh

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    Hi i was looking to get a vox mv50 ac head for at home for practice for myself but would also like it to be able to be loud enough to be heard over my drum kit if i have my mate over to play guitar while i play drums.
    So id like to get a vox cab.
    Would 2x8" 8 ohm cabs be louder than 1x12" 4 ohm cab.
    I can also get two of the 2x8" for half the price of one 2x12"

    Also the head can switch between 4/8/16 ohms

    Here are links to the gear
    https://www.musoscorner.com.au/vox-...MIqbXSwdut6QIVBg4rCh0dFAfPEAAYASAAEgLEv_D_BwE

    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BC108--vox-bc108-25-watt-1x8-inch-cabinet

    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BC112-150--vox-bc112-150-150-watt-1x12-inch-cabinet

    Thanks Mark
     
  2. DougM

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    I worked at a Vox dealer that carried those, and the matching 112 cab sounded a million times better with the MV50 AC than the 1x8 one.
     
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    Thanks for the reply,

    So i imagine two of the 1x8 ones would still not be as good.

    So for the same price i could get the MV50 with a 112 cab or a AC10, or as i said before the MV50 with the 2 1x8" for $200 less.

    Ive read that the AC 10 isnt that loud but ok for rehearsal and the MV50 with 112 will do small gigs, and then i had the idea of the MV50 with two 1x8's.
    Also as i use pedals for my dirty sound (i prefer this) i was thinking of using the MV50 AC for the clean and then my pedals for the dirty,

    At the moment i have a vox pathfinder 10 (not loud enough to get over drums) for crunchy clean and marshall code 50 ,
    im using the code with most of the mods/sims turned off as a pedal platform (but the speaker is built for modular so it sounds ok but not great)

    What i guess im trying to do is to is use a vox as my clean and either pedals for my dirty thru the same vox amp/head, or a/b into another amp/head with pedals for dirty, (but would be nice to have the Vox dirty channel on tap aswell)
    For eg ac10 for either clean or pedals on 1 clean channel and have the ac10 dirty channel on tap if needed.

    The reason im thinking of a second amp/head to replace my marshall as a pedal platform is that im not sure if any one these vox's are a good platform for pedals.
    I even considered getting a MV50 AC 1x8" for that semi clean crunch and then a MV50 Clean to use as a pedal platform for my dirty channel, (but that would involve a amp switcher and more money)

    Sorry for so much info just confussed as to what to do, and dont have a store close i can just go to and try all this out.
    Im struggling to decide.

    https://www.bettermusic.com.au/vox-...MIifrkl_Gt6QIVTx0rCh2sFA1zEAYYAyABEgLp3PD_BwE
     
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    I also just read on the vox showroom site.

    "Rated at 8ohms and 25 watts,a single bc108 was perfectly matched to the 8 ohm, 25 watt output of the MV50 amp head.
    Stacking two bc108's cabinets dropped the total impedance to 4 ohms, allowing the MV50 to produce its max power of 50 watts rms"

    I imagine this would make a big difference?
     
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    I've played mine through an 8ohm quad, it was only just loud enough to keep up with a loud drummer.

    I wouldn't even consider the 8" speakers.

    A 4ohm vertical 2x12 might be good.
     
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    ok thanks for the info
     
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    I would definitely go for 1x12 rather than 2x8, especially with drive sound i always found 8" speaker lacking something....
     
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    Confucius say, 10" sounds better than 8" and 12" sounds better than 10"
     
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    I had the mv50 AC running through an 8ohm 1x12. It was borderline for full band, drummer volume. I would do 4ohm ...maybe even a 2x10 or 2x12 setup.
     
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    OK i think ill steer clear of the 8".
    How about these

    A 2x12" Marshall origin with celestion seventy 80's 8ohm
    https://www.belfieldmusic.com.au/products/marshall-origin-212a-guitar-cab-vertical-2x12-cabinet-160w $549

    1x12" vox https://www.bettermusic.com.au/vox-bc112-150 $479 aud....for a $120 more i can get the marshall

    Vox 2x12" This would be perfect but a bit pricey https://www.bettermusic.com.au/vox-v212c-2x12-guitar-amp-speaker-cabinet $699 au

    Or im still tossing up about getting a AC10, i also have a joyo ac tone pedal which i could make use of on the clean channel of a AC 10
     
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    Another idea, i imagine a 4x12 would not be much louder than a 2x12 .
    I was doing some 2x12 amp searching and came across a marshall 4x12" ex floor stock for the same price as a 2x12" marshall.
    I have always wanted a 4x12 but never had the need or the money for one.
    Is this to good to pass up?
    And with only running a MV50 thru it i can still use it for practice and rehersal with drums?It has 4 60watt speakers and 16ohm
     
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    I think you will want to end up with a 4 ohm load. Thats where the mv50 gets its peak wattage.
     
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    I wouldn't go near any 16ohm cabs unless you're going to buy a tube amp.

    Most solidstate amps are going to put out 1/4 of their power at 16ohms.
     
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    Marshall 4x12 cabinets typically have four 16 ohm speakers wired series/parallel to generate a 16 ohm total load. You could re-wire all four speakers in parallel, which would result in a 4 ohm total load.

    Would it be "louder" than a 4 ohm 2x12? That would have much more to do with the specifications of the individual speakers. But if you've got the space, there's nothing like a sealed-back 4x12.
     
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    Ok ill see if i have this correct .
    For peak performance the MV50 runs at 4ohms.
    So that would be 1x4 ohm speaker or 2x8 ohm speakers or 4x16 ohm speakers in parallel .
    Or 1x4 ohm speaker or 2x2 ohm in series or 4x16 ohm in series/parallel
     
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    Is it difficult to re-wire a 4x12 to parallel, and i have the space , i have a dedicated bedroom with a lonely 4x12 space in it.
     
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    Get the 1X12. I'd never get a 1X8 for any reason.
     
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    A 2x12 16ohm cab could very easily be wired 4 ohm. That amp would shine.
     
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    When you see anything marshall with "MG" in front of it, mentally replace the "MG" with "P.O.S".

    So what you're looking at there is a POS412.

    On a budget, I'd say look out for a beat up used Laney 412.

    GS412PA is made out of ply and loaded with Celestions.

    Many lower models are still ply and I personally don't think the HH speakers are that bad.
     
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