When did Fender change from PTP to PCB?

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  1. drob

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    I figure it had to happen in the 70's at some point. Anyone know? Was it the same time for all amps in the line up or were some done earlier/later than others?
     
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    I looked for this a while ago and I believe that they were PTP until 1983. But I am open to correction...
     
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    1983 sounds about right. The red knob amps must've been the first printed board amps. Maybe a bit later but not much.
     
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    They were turret board, not point to point.
     
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    That's true but the two get types get lumped together all the time.
     
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  7. Ringo

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    Well they tried solid state amps in 1968 but that didn't go well....
     
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    Not sure about all the models but the last PTP factory amp was the Super Champ, I believe- I have an '84.
     
  9. Paul G.

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    If we're going to be 100% accurate they were eyelet boards, never turrets as far as I know.

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    I had a 1986 Concert 2 x 10, eyelet board (PTP).
     
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    What? I see these beauties on pro stages everywhere.. Bassman, Twin & Pro. [emoji1] (Pass the barf bag)

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    If we get down to it. may as well state the correct data point. ;)
     
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    It would be really interesting to A/B these amps with their tube brethren. I would be really curious to hear the sonic differences.
     
  14. Ringo

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    I'd like to hear one of the SF SS amps too, I'm sure they don't sound anything like the tube models, and Fender had major reliability issues with them, something to do with the wave soldering which was pretty new at the time IIRC?
    I've read that the SS Bassman amps were ok , for bass, I've never read anything positive about any of the other models.
     
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    Wave soldering had been around for a while then. In fact, the FR4 prototype boards soldered beautifully. The problems were cheap boards that warped during the process, and they had issues with the transistors being placed backwards in the sockets and shorting out.
     
  16. Ringo

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    I guess I meant to say wave soldering was new to Fender. At any rate there were issues and the first Fender ss amp line didn't last long.
     
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