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Whats up with the new 72 AVRI?

Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by Bunky, Sep 17, 2011.

  1. Bunky

    Bunky Tele-Meister

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    Couldn't find any good threads in my google/tgp searches sorry if i'm covering old ground.

    What's the verdict? Does the wrhb cover sounds a humbucker should ala lp or sg, or filtertron?

    Need something to go with my strat, and casino. Have a Rick 620 i might sell to finance it. Might end up going with a gretsch though...however a tele bridge seems like a must for any collection..oh G.A.S.
     
  2. whitecat

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    Yeah, I'm interested to hear what people think of this "redesigned" WRHB as well.

    Believe it or not I find the lacquer finish on the new AVRIs a bit off-putting - it's not really authentic, is it... but I guess Fender think they're giving the masses what they demand in an expensive-ish instrument...

    Anyway, I've put in for the Tele-bration '75 Tele (Custom, although not by name) which is next year sometime. I'm hoping that they will use this new redesigned WRHB in that one either way - can't see why they wouldn't being a USA guitar.
     
  3. davenumber2

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    I would think if you bought a used MIM reissue Custom or Deluxe and put some aftermarket pups in it from Lollar, Telenator, etc you would have a guitar that is just as good or better at a cheaper price. Just my 2 cents.
     
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    I have a MIM Deluxe, which is great actually, so I don't disagree with you...

    But still interested in impressions from end users of the new AVRIs nonetheless...
     
  5. boris bubbanov

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    Retrofit the tuners to Gotoh splits (TK 0880) and you got it. You might could even keep an eye open for some original Seth WRHBs with the saved money.

    FMIC "fixed" all the wrong things with this model. Not too happy, me.
     
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    http://www.at-the-creamery.co.uk/sc...de-range-thinline-humbucker-replacements.html

    I put his WRHB on my MIM '72 Custom and it's a great sounding and playing Tele now. Much much better than with the stock neck pup. I put a Fender AVRI 62 pickup at the bridge. Sounds perfect now.
     
  7. dave1z

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    I'm wondering if they are going to make the "new" WRHB available as an aftermarket part so that those of us with the older re-issues can upgrade. If they do, they will probably make them so outragously expensive as to not be worth the effort though. Like it was said previously ... maybe better to save my rubles and wait till I can afford the real deal.
     
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    Think I saw a post around here a few weeks ago related to the AVRI 72 TL. They have the same pup, it could give you an idea.

    Compared to the AVRI, I do not think that merely swapping the WRHB on a MIM Custom will make it as good a guitar as a whole.

    I am sure that the 72 custom AVRI will have a much nicer fit & finish, saddles, fretting, neck edges, pots, etc when compared to it's classic series counterpart.
     
  9. adjason

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    Hey great question- I have been wondering this myself. I am thinking that the pickups might show up as aftermarket ones too but I am real curious to know if they sound differently than the MIM reissue ones. I can't seem to find one to play.
     
  10. RubyRae

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    I concur. I'm sure these are very well made, and sound and feel a step above.
    You get what you pay for. If I had the cash I might buy one...
    I would sure like to.
     
  11. Tele60x

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    I would like to know more too. I think there is only 1 video on you tube showing the AVRI '72 Custom. Not many people giving reviews. :(

    I know besides the upgrade in quality of the overall body people have been complaining about the tint of the neck and some are saying that the WRH is the same.
     
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    Never got to play it... it was sold before I had time to play it...
     
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    Well, I'm glad someone bumped this... I noticed that recently some of the new AVRI '72 Custom's have a little less tint on the neck then the first ones so I think they knew they added a little too much. I'm a little concerned about the finish of the body because I have never owned a nitro body and there has been reports that the body is really sticky. I was just playing my Artist series USA Strat and actually started too like the nitro neck.

    Also, anyone notice this video? Looks to me like a Mini Humbucker in the Telecaster Custom. I would love if Fender made one of these for a current production. Fender Hot Rod Vintage '72 Telecaster Custom if you will. ;)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMb...xt=C34de307UDOEgsToPDskJx0anmKgs3tDolT9z4fDg7
     
  16. Clifton C

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    Well, I just bought a 72 AVRI thinline in candy apple red, as you can probably tell from my avatar. I have to say that I absolutely love the guitar. I think that, as far as I can tell, the build quality seems very nice. The neck is nice and chunky--a little more substantial than my MIJ Paisley Tele reissue. I have fairly small hands, but it feels comfortable to me. I think I prefer the 7 1/4 radius that these vintage reissues tend to have.

    The pickups are exactly what I wanted, but I need to explain that I tend to prefer humbuckers that sound clean and full, which they do on this guitar. I'm not so much into the typical "dirty" sound that is usually associated with humbuckers. I know there has been some speculation about the whole "voiced more like a 70s pickup" line that Fender had included in the description of the guitar. I'm not really sure what that means. It might just be some kind of marketing thing. All I know is that I really like the pickups on the guitar. I had a friend in high school in the early 80s who had a Tele Deluxe, with a WRHB in the neck position, but I honestly don't remember exactly what it sounded like. He sold that guitar over 20 years ago, so there's no way for me to A/B the original pickup with mine.

    One tendency I've seen, at least on a few of the other threads, is how much the MIM 72 thinlines are considered to be great instruments, and bargains to boot. Reviews on Harmony Central and other sites back this up. Yet the AVRI seems to bring out skepticism for some reason. Or maybe skepticism isn't the exact word, but people seem less likely to use positive words when talking about the guitar. The only thing I can figure is it's possibly a reflection on the price of the guitar. Oddly, though, the 52 AVRI doesn't seem to evoke similar responses, even though I believe to two guitars are priced the same.

    I came into a little money when my grandmother passed away, and I thought that buying a guitar would be a nice way to remember her. I'm glad I bought the 72 AVRI. It seems like a great, well-built guitar, and I can't wait to get a chance to play it every day. I can understand how it might not be for everyone, but it just reinforces (to me, at least) just how brilliant Leo Fender's design was that it could be modified in several different ways, and yet still be recognizable as a Telecaster.

    Oh, and someone near the beginning of the thread discussed selling their Rickenbacker 620. In my opinion, that's one of Rickenbacker's best designs, but it tends to be overlooked (and maybe underappreciated) by people who want either 330's or 360's. They're such great little guitars, it would be hard to sell one.

    When I was seriously considering buying the thinline, one of the people who worked at the guitar shop who I've known for years said, "Of all the guitars here, I find myself playing this one the most.". I thought that was an interesting comment.
     
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    Glad to hear you are enjoying your new guitar. I have been considering getting a AVRI '72 Custom but the lack of reviews and interest is making me look at other options. I have not seen any locally at all even Guitar Center so I'm a little bummed.
     
  18. Bunky

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  19. hongaku

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    Why bump?

    The same story that applies to the MIM ones will apply to the AVRI as far as pickups go - if you want a vintage Fender Wide Range Humbucker (WRHB) sound you WILL have to replace the pickups - no if's, and's or but's. If you aren't looking for that sound then the stock humbucker is going to sound like...well, a humbucker ;)

    You're really paying for nicer fit and finish detail all around, better overall quality control, and American labor costs. The hardware is essentially the same as on the MIM ones. Fender may indeed have slightly revoiced or wound slightly differently the reissue WRHB that they're putting in the 72 AVRI thinline and custom - but it still doesn't sound like vintage ones at all.

    That being said, they seem to be fantastic guitars and if I had the money I would absolutely get one (or both; why not?) - and then promptly replace the pickups since I would want a vintage WRHB sound. But then I would have spent so much money on it I would be afraid to take it out of the house for gigs :oops:

    Of course if I had the kind of money to buy a new AVRI and replace the pickups with boutique WRHB clones (or real ones off ebay; why not?), then maybe I wouldn't be nervous about gigging it because I'd obviously be pretty well off...maybe not 1% well off, but well off nonetheless :D
     
  20. Bunky

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    WHo makes the best wrhb clones?
     
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