What's this Dylan guitar?

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  1. maple

    maple TDPRI Member

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    Dylan tweakers come forth. It was during rolling thunder. At some point he was holding it on the cover of rolling Stone in 78
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    rarebreed Tele-Holic

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    While I don't know the exact model, it looks like a National.
     
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    That didn't take long. Yep after googglllying that it is a national Glenwood. Thank you for settling a trivial workplace question.
     
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    Fearnot Friend of Leo's

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    Dylan was the first person I saw playing one of those, and I still identify it with him... though he likely hasn't touched one in 40 years.
     
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    schmee Poster Extraordinaire

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    I remember having an old National catalog back in the 60's. They had some weird guitars for sure. Resin bodies IIRC. I think those and Supro guitars were related in some way...?
     
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    I had a less fancy red model briefly.
    Not the grooviest guitar.
    That’s why I had it briefly.
     
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    I don't think I've ever picked one up but I imagine they are very heavy.
     
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    brookdalebill Tele Axpert Ad Free Member

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    They’re not heavy.
    The bodies are fiberglass, hollow and kinda built like a clamshell.
    Some folks love em’.
    They have lots (way too many, IMO) of tone and volume controls, and an early piezo “acoustic” option.
    David Lindley used them to great effect.
    The pickups look like humbuckers, but are single coil.
    There are a few rrplica companies still making them, although they are not hollow, or made of fiberglass.[/QUOTE]
     
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  9. Mike Simpson

    Mike Simpson Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    I have a few of the National guitars but I never found a Glenwood. I have a Westwood 88, Val Pro 84 and a Newport 88. There were 4 models of the map shaped guitars and each one was available in 3 different pickup configurations. Each pickup setup only came in one color black, white or red. The Westwood and Newport were smaller bodies and the Val Pro and Glenwood bodies were larger than the other two. The Westwood was made out of wood and the Newport, Val-Pro and Glenwood were "Resoglass" or fiberglass top and back. Although the pickups look like humbuckers they are all single coil and closer to a P90 with the magnet on the side. The bridge had a built in magnetic pickup in the base. The case that is shaped like the guitar is probably more rare than the guitars. National also made amps with matching names for most of these. My first amp when I was a kid was a National Westwood with 2x8" Jensesn alnico speakers.

    Newport 88 3 pickups, only available in black resoglass.

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    Val Pro 84 2 pickup, only available in white resoglass

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    Westdood 88 3 pickup only in red made out of wood

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    The westwood is chambered in the back with "tone chambers" and the back is covered with pickguard material.

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    National Westwood amp

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    Also, Brian Johnson on the drums there!

    I know it's not. Jus' sayin'
     
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    Had one of these guitars a few decades ago and will also confirm that they are not heavy at all. It looked cool, but played like crud.
     
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    Mike Simpson Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    These guitars were not inexpensive for the time.
     
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    Referred to also as map guitars (the shape)

    In the 30’s after the Dopyera Bros left National to form Dobro, National left California, moved to Chicago and became Valco.


    Valco made Supro stuff, Airline, Oahu, National obviously, and a bunch of private in-house brands for stores.

    If you had a big enough order , they would make a guitar or amp with your name on it .
     
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    IIRC, the body shape was intended to resemble, somewhat vaguely, a map of the US (lower 48).
     
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