What's the difference between a Nashville B-Bender and a Deluxe Nashville?

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  1. Digiplay

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    Besides the B-Bender and countries of different origins, what are the differences between a Nashville B-Bender and a Deluxe Nashville?

    I have commented that the B-Bender Nashville I played sounded twangier than a MIM Nashville I played, but was that Nashville an anomaly, and should they sound sound almost the same?
     
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    I've started some research, and here are some specifics I found:

    The 2011 Nashville B-Bender has:
    1) 2 USA Tele Single-Coil Pickups
    2) 1 Texas Special Strat Single-Coil Pickup
    3) An American Tele bridge with 6 stainless steel saddles
    4) Neck Shape: Modern "C".
    5) Scale Length: 25.5"
    6) Fingerboard Radius: 9.5"
    7) Number of Frets: 21
    8) Fret Size: Medium Jumbo
    9) A poplar body, though some sites say it's alder.

    The 2011 MIM Nashville has:
    1) 2 Tex-Mex Tele Pickups
    2) 1 Tex-Mex Strat Pickup
    3) A Vintage-style six-saddle bridge
    4) Neck Shape: Modern "C"
    5) Scale Length: 25.5"
    6) Fingerboard Radius: 9.5"
    7) Number of Frets: 21
    8) Fret Size: Medium Jumbo
    9) An alder body.


    So does anything stand out that would give the Nashville B-Bender more twang?
     
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    Hi Greg!

    That simple? :)
     
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    Well one is made in the USA and has a B bender

    the other is MIM and doesn't have a B bender

    not trying to be silly, but whats the question again ?

    They are obviously similar "spec'd" guitars that carry the Nashville model.


    TWANG ? What exactly is twang and how do we define it ? IF BRIGHT is determined to mean TWANG , well then the Nashville B Bender is big on BRIGHT ! I know this first hand.
     
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    Yes, the Nashville B-Bender is/was brighter, (i.e. twangier) than the MIM Nashville.


    The question was if they were so similar spec'd (B-Bender notwithstanding), why did they sound so different? :)
     
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    A guitar is the sum of all of it's parts. Without knowing exactly if both bodies are the same wood, then right there is where the differences begin. The resonance, sustain, sound, which is actually what TWANG means, is different.

    I don't believe they have the same bridge /saddle assy's either.

    The sum of all of the parts .
     
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    Hi T Prior :)

    If the wood WAS the same, and the pu's, bridge/saddle assembly were the same, then do you believe they "should" sound the same?
     
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    I expect there's a weight difference... IIRC, there's a more metalwork in the Fender-bender?
     
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    Hi David, I hope you had a Happy First of July (David will know what I'm alluding to :) )!

    So you think the metal bender mechanism and metal plate it attaches to affects the tone as well?
     
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    I would suspect NO in this case because we are not comparing Apples to Apples. The PG Bender system is installed in a routed body and as stated above has a metal plate .

    Guitars are the sum of all the parts. We already know the Bender guitar is a bit brighter.

    I am guessing that you are trying to decide on buying one or the other. The question should not be which guitar spec wise, but rather, do I want a B Bender or not ? As that is the obvious
    choice. Both guitars would serve you well in the " twang" department but only ONE can pull the B string. Thats the choice.
     
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    I know that the Tex Mex Tele bridge pickup I have in one guitar does not have a baseplate. Not sure if it makes that much difference, but it's a place to start.
     
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    If true, that is a BIG difference Skydog1010 :)
     
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    not $2000, more like $500 +/- A new MIM Deluxe sells for around $850 , if you can still get one, and a quality used USA Nashville B Bender is in the $1200 to $1400 range.

    I did notice that the newer Nashville Deluxe guitars come with Noiseless pup, if thats important, but they will be LESS bright overall.
     
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    Is there a significant weight difference with that routed chunk of wood missing from the b-bender that helps with the twang?
     
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    The wood being routed out is something less than 1 LB, the added PG weight is near 2 pounds. Twang is not a factor.

    The 2012 Nashville B Bender that I have, with the PG system out, is still a heavy guitar by comparison.
     
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    Hi T Prior, Happy 4th of July!

    What does your Nashville B-Bender weigh with and without the system installed?
     
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    Well, I weighed 3 guitars, using a bathroom scale which obviously is not accurate under 10 pounds

    Hope this helps

    stock 1989/ 52RI > around 7 pounds
    2008 American standard with a Forrest Lee jr bender > around 7 pounds, maybe 7.5 feels the same as the 52RI
    2012 Fender Nashville with the PG system > around 9 pounds , but under 10
     
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    This thread is proof that talking about Telecasters is like dancing about architecture.

    TPrior, your patience and kindness are admirable. :cool:
     
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