onemoreguitar
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This book, Cincinnati Supernova, does a deep dive into the 70's as a teen, playing in a rock band.
What were The 70's really like?
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Dan German
Doctor of Teleocity
There are posts here that I strongly disagree with.
There are posts here that make me think twice about some of my opinions.
There are posts here that make me think twice about some of my fellow TDPRIers.
There are posts here that bring back memories, good and bad.
There are posts here that make me laugh out loud.
But ignore? You’re joking, right?
There is always that guy!
I recall Chinese food being better and Mexican food being worse. But my perspective was Atlanta restaurants.
Cartoons were definitely better.
Cartoons were definitely better.
gimmeatele
Friend of Leo's
Left school in 76, got a job, got, got freedom. Turned 18 in 78 and that was it, life became enjoyable. Bought my first bass and rig, out seeing live music every night, started working in a club where most of the punk bands played, saw a lot of the top acts, had a great time.
As someone else said in another post, I would go back in a heartbeat
As someone else said in another post, I would go back in a heartbeat
What is your deal?
Not sure what you're asking there
Ok, yeah, I was actually there in the 70’s. But I don’t subscribe to the notion that any particular 10-year period can be reduced to platitudes and generalizations for easy consumption.
I think great music is being made all the time. Sue me.
I had some good times in the 70’s and some not so good times. I studied, I worked. I became a father twice.
But I’m curious about the notion that the 70’s should be decried as morally deficient (and by comparison other decades are somehow superior) because of Charles Manson and the murders committed by his little cult. No doubt that a series of nine murders over the course of four days represents serious depravity and morally bankrupt cult behavior. No argument there. Humanity never fails to disappoint.
And so certainly, applying that standard to subsequent decades could prove how superior they are to the 70’s.
Like the 80’s, right? All rainbows and safe little unicorns? Nope, nope, nope. Let’s look at the facts. Here’s a brief list of some of the serial killers of the 80’s with numbers in parentheses indicating the number of known victims for which these killers were convicted:
Richard Ramirez (13)
Joseph Christoper (11)
Henry Lucas (accurate count never reached)
Ottis Toole (accurate count never reached)
Lonnie David Franklin (10)
Jeffrey Dahmer (17)
Doug Clark and Carol Bundy (5)
And the person for whom the term “going postal” entered our language:
Patrick H. Sherrill, disgruntled postal worker (14)
Ok, that’s only 70. The families of those victims should be consoled that the 80’s were only slightly seven times worse than the 70’s, not even counting Henry Lucas and Ottis Toole. Of course, Charles Manson’s work was sensationalized with Hollywood glitter and we all know how much more dramatic that is. Got it.
Hollywood still seems fascinated with Jeffrey Dahmer, though. I haven’t kept track of the number of Charles Manson documentaries versus the number of Jeffrey Dahmer documentaries.
The 90’s then; surely the 90’s must have been better. Oh, wait, nope. We only have to look at one event. The. Oklahoma City bombing - the massacre at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. Let’s look at the stats, shall we? 168 people died; 850 (+/-) injured; and because we’re all good family oriented folks, 30 children were orphaned, 219 children lost at least one parent, 462 people left homeless and seven thousand people lost their workplace. Charles Manson was a slacker!
Coincidentally, I was working in the OKC area at the time, and for two weeks after the bombing, fellow employees were going to memorial services every day. Every day.
2000’s? September 11, 2001, anyone? …anyone?
2010’s? All kinds of wonderful stuff! In today's society, ignorance is not only bliss, it is now an achievement! We can celebrate the mass murder of school children as a glorious online marketing business model, because just look at how much money was made!
How low do we have to stoop? I’m getting tired of it.
Every decade after the 70’s has been so much better, as long as you indulge in wishful thinking and willful ignorance. Yeah, humanity!
I think great music is being made all the time. Sue me.
I had some good times in the 70’s and some not so good times. I studied, I worked. I became a father twice.
But I’m curious about the notion that the 70’s should be decried as morally deficient (and by comparison other decades are somehow superior) because of Charles Manson and the murders committed by his little cult. No doubt that a series of nine murders over the course of four days represents serious depravity and morally bankrupt cult behavior. No argument there. Humanity never fails to disappoint.
And so certainly, applying that standard to subsequent decades could prove how superior they are to the 70’s.
Like the 80’s, right? All rainbows and safe little unicorns? Nope, nope, nope. Let’s look at the facts. Here’s a brief list of some of the serial killers of the 80’s with numbers in parentheses indicating the number of known victims for which these killers were convicted:
Richard Ramirez (13)
Joseph Christoper (11)
Henry Lucas (accurate count never reached)
Ottis Toole (accurate count never reached)
Lonnie David Franklin (10)
Jeffrey Dahmer (17)
Doug Clark and Carol Bundy (5)
And the person for whom the term “going postal” entered our language:
Patrick H. Sherrill, disgruntled postal worker (14)
Ok, that’s only 70. The families of those victims should be consoled that the 80’s were only slightly seven times worse than the 70’s, not even counting Henry Lucas and Ottis Toole. Of course, Charles Manson’s work was sensationalized with Hollywood glitter and we all know how much more dramatic that is. Got it.
Hollywood still seems fascinated with Jeffrey Dahmer, though. I haven’t kept track of the number of Charles Manson documentaries versus the number of Jeffrey Dahmer documentaries.
The 90’s then; surely the 90’s must have been better. Oh, wait, nope. We only have to look at one event. The. Oklahoma City bombing - the massacre at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. Let’s look at the stats, shall we? 168 people died; 850 (+/-) injured; and because we’re all good family oriented folks, 30 children were orphaned, 219 children lost at least one parent, 462 people left homeless and seven thousand people lost their workplace. Charles Manson was a slacker!
Coincidentally, I was working in the OKC area at the time, and for two weeks after the bombing, fellow employees were going to memorial services every day. Every day.
2000’s? September 11, 2001, anyone? …anyone?
2010’s? All kinds of wonderful stuff! In today's society, ignorance is not only bliss, it is now an achievement! We can celebrate the mass murder of school children as a glorious online marketing business model, because just look at how much money was made!
How low do we have to stoop? I’m getting tired of it.
Every decade after the 70’s has been so much better, as long as you indulge in wishful thinking and willful ignorance. Yeah, humanity!
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bottlenecker
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It kind of sounds like you're saying blue collar workers just got a free ride and now it's over. Global statistics that I am not going to post here paint a different picture, and I will leave it at that because this feels like too grown up a subject for the tdpri mods.
notmyusualuserid
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Why does any thread, no matter how light-hearted, always end with some people taking things far too seriously and far too far?
Lighten up Francis's
Lighten up Francis's
SixStringSlinger
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imwjl
Doctor of Teleocity
No. You might be overthinking it. The 1970s started a time when lots of other places got improved communication, education, and trade. Much of my work was materials, commodities and auto industry related until 1989. The competition landscape was much changed from beginning to end of that.
It was not a free ride. Sure there were extreme stories of stupid stuff but mostly people worked. A firm I worked at before purely IT in late '89 had far more competition than vs a decade earlier. It was not all about price. We thrived and survived over others because we met the newer world that was demand for higher quality parts and just on time delivery.
In my mind we could only call it a free ride from a period with less competition competition overall and not something pejorative aimed at workers. It still leaves us with the cold reality that most truly good jobs are more demanding now.
imwjl
Doctor of Teleocity
I did not hurt that my wife resembles her and a current surfer named Sharlene West. At age 58 mom of 3 she's still windsurfing, running 30 miles a week and it is legit she shops at Lululemon and Athletica. That also reveals it would be cradle robbing if we met in '79 vs '89 LOL.
beyer160
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All the murderers on your disturbingly lengthy list (please tell me you had to Google all that) have one thing in common- they all got caught. Maybe what you're actually pointing out is the fact that forensic science got a lot better by the end of the '70s, and it was much harder to get away with murder so more cases were solved. Hardly a week goes by now that you don't hear about some cold case from 50-60 years ago getting cracked by DNA testing.
Why does any thread, no matter how light-hearted, always end with some people taking things far too seriously and far too far?
Lighten up Francis's
I agree with you
In that spirit, this thread is locked
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