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What version of Tele wiring is this?

Discussion in 'Tele-Technical' started by Grendel2000, Oct 30, 2020.

  1. Grendel2000

    Grendel2000 TDPRI Member

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    To be honest I pulled this out of the guitar that's not mine so it could be more F'd up than a football bat... That's kinda why I was hoping to see a diagram.

    Thanks for your help!
     
  2. Wally

    Wally Telefied Ad Free Member

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    and Tuxedo Poly gave us a good diagram for a post-1966 Tele diagram in post #4. Use that diagram. Try it out. If you then want to change the taper of the volume pot, do what I said in my last post...take the tone cap to the middle lug of the volume pot instead of grounding it to the back of the volume pot. If that does not suit you, then a treble bypass circuit on the volume pot will work. Try the first two and go from there.
     
  3. GuitarsBuicks

    GuitarsBuicks Tele-Holic

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    That is what Fender called "Delta Tone." Apparently they used on the mid-90's American Standard Telecasters. My '96 has it. There's an indent on the tone pot. When you open the tone fully it takes it out of the loop completely in the bridge position. I don't know if it works in the neck and middle positions but I think it does. Sometimes it works out nicely, other times you have to remember to put it back about halfway to get the traditional fully open sound.

    Don't undo it. Just check all the soldering, if that doesn't solve the problem just get a whole new control plate. Better not to mess with a good thing.
     
  4. Kevin Wolfe

    Kevin Wolfe Tele-Meister

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    Exactly. That’s a “no load” tone pot and it does indeed work in all positions.
     
  5. Tommyd55

    Tommyd55 Tele-Holic

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    There is only one difference between the two styles of wiring..

    https://www.fralinpickups.com/2020/03/01/50s-wiring-vs-modern-wiring/

    https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/29161-mod-garage-three-ways-to-wire-a-tone-pot

    if you look at the two pots you simply move one wire. In your picture you look at the white wire you show that goes from the bottom lug on the volume pot directly across to the bottom lug on the tone pot. (remember your picture the pots are not in the same position as the diagram I posted)
    You can remove that white wire, just remove it, and move the orange cap to the middle lug on the volume pot to the bottom lug on the tone pot.
    The below diagram is exactly what I am talking about. I use this wiring most of the time.
    This diagram is for pots in the standard positions NOT like what you are working with.

    Jan14_PG_CLM_ModGarage_image2_WEB.jpg

    source: https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/19909-mod-garage-50s-les-paul-wiring-in-a-telecaster
     
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    GuitarsBuicks Tele-Holic

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    I couldn't think of the name for that pot.
     
  7. TokyoPortrait

    TokyoPortrait Friend of Leo's

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    Hi.

    Slight déjà vu feeling, as I converted my recently acquired MIJ 50s style Tele to the Gibson 50s style wiring just this morning and then noticed this thread.

    Here are the two pages I used to double check what I was doing - the part 2 page really. Mine does look a little different to the one in the second page below though, as the cap is being used to bridge the tone's middle lug and the vol's outer lug and then though to ground on the vol case. Like I think what is happening in your photo.

    https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/19909-mod-garage-50s-les-paul-wiring-in-a-telecaster

    https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/20081-mod-garage-50s-les-paul-wiring-in-a-telecaster-pt-2

    Pax/
    Dean
     
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