What tube amp can cop this Katana SRV tone?

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  1. Clarkj734

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    I'm so confused by this thread...

    Was this meant to somehow justify that the OP likes his Katana?

    For what it is, the Katana is a fine amp. I've played through a few and while they just aren't my personal taste, I can see the appeal. I would have killed for a Katana 25 years ago when I was first learning to play, and when I was playing with my first bands in high school.

    They are a good "Jack of all tones" setup for someone who needs versatility in an affordable package. Tones are quite convincing, but lean to far to the higher gain realm than I personally prefer.

    For me, I don't want to hook my amps to a computer and tweak software.
     
  2. gridlock

    gridlock Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    My Strat into my Twin Reverb through a TS808 Tubescreamer into a Wampler Black ‘65.

    SRV tone at most any volume.
     
  3. ASATKat

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    I am not a heavy metal guy at all. The little Kat provides the cleaner tones I like just fine.

    You know guys, at some point you just gotta start playing with what you got. If you're a good player and play with believability any amp would work. No matter how great the amp is, if you don't have your sound in your dna it will still suck. The best amp doesn't fix that.

    Maybe I'm at a place with my playing where I believe I could make even the lowly Kat sound good.
     
  4. MilwMark

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    Seemed like he was, you know, joking.
     
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    I listened to your tracks. If you are happy, we're happy.

    That first vid you posted was brutal tho.....:eek:
     
  6. Fiesta Red

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    I feel the same as the sentiments described above.

    My favorite players are Jimmie Vaughan, Muddy Waters, Keef Richards, Billy Gibbons, Waylon Jennings, Tab Benoit, SRV and Kid Ramos (and a dozen others)...

    Do I play anything like any of them?

    Well, a little...I can do a pretty accurate Muddy Waters impersonation. There's a lot of Keef in my personal riff-ology/rhythm playing. You'll hear some major JLV Mojo throughout my playing...but the styles of the other players mentioned above are just influences and tonal touchstones.

    In the end, all and all, I sound like me...and in my opinion that's the best thing in the world, a player that's developed a distinct personal sound.
     
  7. homesick345

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    there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG in chasing SRV tone; or wanting to sound like him

    This whole "it's in the hands" or "you should sound like yourself" is starting to become very pedantic...
     
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    About 3 years old, but still on point.
     
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    Any classic fender, or other amp played clean, plus a Lovepedal Super Six. It's meant to sound like a Super Reverb on Six. Straight up SRV tone. A tube rectifier in your amp would be ideal. Add a tube screamer if you'd like. The rest is in the playing.

    An early 70's Super Reverb on Six is a fun option...
     
  10. OldGuy6873

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    Although you are right that there is nothing wrong with chasing that tone, the bottom line is that no matter how hard anyone tries, they will not sound like SRV for a huge number or reasons. Just keeping it real, I think. That's all.
     
  11. Guitarteach

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    My Mark III Boogie with the input and treble cranked on Rhythm 2 nails it for me. But so does my Marshall JMP.

    A Fulltone OCD pedal also has got a bright character that cops the tone too.

    A strat and a bright amp with lots of gain to work with is all you need. Attack the notes. Cut the mids.
     
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    While there is a lot of truth in the "you'll always sound like you" sentiment, there is a lot to be said for learning to recreate the tones and techniques of the greats.

    Go ahead and see the response you get in a club playing Pink Floyds Comfortably Numb with a different tone and style, they'll eat you alive. The same goes for a lot of Hendrix, SRV, Knopfler, Santana and any number of others.
     
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    Clint’s, thanks for that video. I really like the part about a Strat needing a boost to sound big.....the truth can be hilarious!!
     
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    Digital SRV bedroom tone is no joke. It's serious interweb bidness. It ranks up there with determining what year the first Dumble ODS was made.
     
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    That does not sound anything like SRV.

    Buy a Fender Super Reverb with a blackface circuit.

    There is no SS amp that will get you the SRV sound. I've been thru the journey of buying a dozen SS amps including a Katana. They don't duplicate the SRV tone, sustain, punch, or sensitivity to the attack heard in SRV's recordings & videos.

    I finally bought a 1969 Fender Super Reverb with a blackface circuit and had it recapped & new tubes. No pedals needed. Plug straight in and crank it up.

    The Super Reverbs sound awesome and practically play the music for you.
     
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  16. homesick345

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    I totally respect your opinion.

    The idea however; is that you can learn a lot by chasing a certain tone, even if you don't achieve it. It's fun. And educational. And totally not a crime :)

    On a side note; some who were dedicated enough, did achieve Stevie's tone. I witnessed it; heard it & could link it - but that's not my aim, to start dissecting or bickering over a sound
     
  17. ASATKat

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    Well, the Super Reverb sounds like the overall favorite amp. They sound great.
    But from what I've read they are best when cranked. They need their power amp pushed, or you're left with getting you muscle from only the preamp and/or pedal.

    Stevie is one of those guys that could really play loud in a small place and no one would call him on it. I saw Robben in a club and he was so loud it hurt, and the soundman was fine. No one tells Robben how to play. That was with the Blue Line, what a band.

    I am not those guys and no way would I ever get away with volume.

    This problem has left me in a quandry in the past, and now,,, how do I reduce volume without killing the poweramp tone. I don't like to attenuate my amps, to me that's just another way to squash the tone. So the smaller amp is the more favorable amp for the smaller rooms, anything under 100 or 150 people is a small room.

    I came close to a good Texas tone using my Zendrive 2, but that isn't just the amp tone it's the pedal tone at least 50%. And when you have to turn the amp down then you're increasing the pedals job because it puts back in the poweramp sound like the amp is being pushed. In my opinion in this situation the amp becomes just a clean platform for the pedal. On the other hand I have yet to hear a small amp have the tone and girth of say the Super Reverb or Vibroverb or Twin, it just ain't gonna happen. I have bounced around with this problem since '75 when I became 21, and I learned the hard way, "why doesn't my Boogie Mk1 and my 335 sound like Robben? "I was lacking some knowhow about playing in a club.
    My Mk1 mistakes
    1. It was too much amp for the room, Robben was playing to 5,000 people at the Casino Lights show that I was going by.
    2. I had an EV12L in it just like Robbens. But again I wasn't playing at a huge concert, and the poor speaker could hardly work at club level. Too much speaker.

    I set myself up to have lousy amemic tone. But I did learn my lesson.

    It's all about getting the poweramp pumping away, and smaller amps are one way of doing that. Just listen to Led
    Zep, Jimmy recorded lots of those songs with small amps, 12w. 15w,, Jeff Beck would play in front of another 5,000 people using just a 15w Pro Jr.
    With a mic of course. He would put it on top of his Marshall. I own a Pro Jr too, a cool blonde one. I wish I didn't sell it, it's better than a Blues Jr in my op. But it was incapable of Stevie's Texas tone.

    Maybe I play more smaller clubs than some of the folks here but imo the amps that can be driven in a club with 50 people are ones under 22w, and 22w is still too loud so master down to 3 max. The Blues Jr is a perfect size amp. But it really sounds like a runt Fender, with a 12 inch speaker it's lots better. But the amp never thrilled me, still doesn't.

    Then the Katana appeared and it was two years of thinking about it before I made my move that required me selling my SS22. The SS22 was going to sell regardless, I had a week to play at hime and decide on the Kat. I sometimes piss stores off by bringing gear back but it's my shot at getting my tone so please give me my money.

    Perhaps the title of this thread could have been "what small tube amp can cop this tone" but I didn't so,,,

    Yes, I conceed lol,,, the Super Reverb clean and with the TS9 is the ticket. Love it, would like to hear it with my Hermida Zendrive2 od.

    But you gotta carry it for me.
     
  18. telel6s

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    Yup. This assumes you are limiting yourself to one amp. Adding a Marshall, Dumble or ViborVerb next to the SR would sound even better. :)

    Honestly, I think a better title would have been something like, "I really like my Katana -- listen to what it can do." Some of your replies expanded way beyond "what amp can sound like SRV" to a number of the other features of the Katana. As I said in an earlier reply, I've heard great things about the Katana amps. But there are lots of ways to skin a cat and the Katana is only one of them. It's cool that you've found your amp to make your music. Keep it up.

    But for smaller amps, I've got a 12 watt Princeton (non reverb) that keeps a manageable volume even when set to 10. Add TS or other drive to goose the preamp and it sounds pretty damn good. I'm sure lots of other players here at TDPRI have gotten great SRV tones out of smaller amps, too.
     
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  19. ASATKat

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    The Katana is a good "utility" amp. It might work for a tube guy in a pinch.

    But before we all part ways, here is one more clip that you might need to hear so you can better understand the utility of the amp. Dave Simpson made a great demo video of the Kat, it might be the most watched Kat video, anyway Dave is a fine player and a joy to watch.

    This was the video that sealed the deal for me. Please watch it, you've come this far with me. My gut says you would rate it higher that the op SRV, which I still like.

    At 17:00 he demos Voodoo Chile (not Child), this runs right into his SRV demo at 22:00. This is totally different from the op SRV version. Even though it's Gibson I want to share the Peter Green Oh Well tone at 35:30, and Gary Moore's amazing Still Got The Blues tone at 42:00. I could play the Peter Green tone all day,
     
  20. backporchmusic

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    Well...OP has 'Kat' in his username.

    Here's a quote of his from an altogether different thread:

    "Getting back to Boss, the Katana has proven to have the tone to be the #1 selling digital amp this year. THIS amp is what the other guys should be producing. Their own unique take on a small size econo amp with access to deeper greater editing, like a Deluxe size Kemper that can hold like 10 profile presets and only front panal controls, meaning you need your computer to do deep editing."

    Can't tell if he's a Katana superfan, or a shill.

    I'm leaning toward shill.
     
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