What Specific Speakers Would You Classify As Being " Bright " ?

[yamatele]

Hi !

I think the title pretty much says it all, unless you want to clarify your definition of what makes a speaker " bright ".

 

[lioncommandking]

Dunno what make em' bright, but to me the speakers that I've had that come to mind are the Jensen P10R, C10Q, MOD 10-35, Emiinence Screaming Eagle, Organ pulled Cleveland 10" and Rola 10" alnicos, CTS ceramic 10s, Weber 10f150T (somewhat ont he bright side or certainly a clear speaker. I like bright, by the way!!!

 

[Singin' Dave]

JBLs with aluminium dust caps are generally very bright in my experience.

 

[Joey]

Jensen C12N ( in a bad way - overly shrill top end) and Jensen C10R (in a good way- great Fendery chime).

 

[Chiogtr4x]

Jensen C12N ( in a bad way - overly shrill top end) and Jensen C10R (in a good way- great Fendery chime).

I remember years ago getting a Jensen (the then new Italian company) C-12N for my Blues Jr., thinking it would be similar to the Weber C-12N (same speaker as the current Weber 12F150 series) I had in my Deluxe Reverb...

The Jensen did not last 5 minutes (seriously) before I put the stock Fender/Emi back in. The Jensen was all high-end, "Hi-Fi" sounding, no mids or bottom. Now it may have sounded better had I broken it in, but I have never had to deal with a warm up period before with any other spkr, so it was gone asap (actually traded it to a buddy for "parts computer" he put together)

 

[Ed Storer]

Jensen NEO's. Bright (trebly) in a way I didn't like much.

 

[BiggerJohn]

The early original design Kendrick Blackframe 12s are rather bright.

The Weber 10F125 is bright.

The reissue C10Q is bright

The Jensen Neos are bright.

The Tonker-Lite is bright.

Aluminum dustcap JBLs are kind of bright.

 

[jondanger]

+1 on the JBLs, which I think sound great. I had some e120s in a Bandmaster cab, and it was amazing.

Jensen P12Q is pretty darn bright too, but to me the Jensen sounds bad. Too wimpy, too harsh.

 

[Ricky D.]

How would you rate a Weber 12A125A?

 

[InyoTim]

The early original design Kendrick Blackframe 12s are rather bright.

I've read quite a few folks saying bad things about these early Kendrick speakers. I have one in my blackface Deluxe and it sounds really good. I have four more in a 4x12 cab. There is no stamping on the speakers, just a gold Kendrick lable on the back. I've always wondered who made these for Kendrick.

 

[BiggerJohn]

I've read quite a few folks saying bad things about these early Kendrick speakers. I have one in my blackface Deluxe and it sounds really good. I have four more in a 4x12 cab. There is no stamping on the speakers, just a gold Kendrick lable on the back. I've always wondered who made these for Kendrick.

I heard years ago that they're made by CREDENCE.

If you like bright speakers, you'd probably like the early Blackframes.

 

[JTM45blues]

I remember years ago getting a Jensen (the then new Italian company) C-12N for my Blues Jr., thinking it would be similar to the Weber C-12N (same speaker as the current Weber 12F150 series) I had in my Deluxe Reverb...

The Jensen did not last 5 minutes (seriously) before I put the stock Fender/Emi back in. The Jensen was all high-end, "Hi-Fi" sounding, no mids or bottom. Now it may have sounded better had I broken it in, but I have never had to deal with a warm up period before with any other spkr, so it was gone asap (actually traded it to a buddy for "parts computer" he put together)

Yes, you should blame the Jensen C12N for not sounding good in a Blues Jr.... gimmee a break. The Blues Jr is a harsh sounding amp to say the least, and has no bottom end. I use a C12N reissue paired with a Jensen P12Q in my Victoria Double Deluxe, it sounds INCREDIBLE! I tried Weber P12Q's and they would not cut through busy mixes. I tried Celestions and they made the amp too Marshally sounding. Tried different combinations of Jensen RI, and came back to this setup and just pounded those cones by live gigging. They sound really great now and don't make my amp weigh a ton. I put Weber speakers in my 35310 and it weighs an extra 10-15 lbs. They sound good, but to my ear they are more hi-fi sounding than the Jensens that came stock.

 

[Ed Storer]

Yes, you should blame the Jensen C12N for not sounding good in a Blues Jr.... gimmee a break. The Blues Jr is a harsh sounding amp to say the least, and has no bottom end.

Thanks JTM45! I'm glad to see somebody on this forum that agrees with my assessment of the Blues Jr. I had one for a week, while I tried tube swapping to see if I couldn't get it mellowed to bearable levels. At the end of that week I took the BJr to Guitar Center and traded it in for a DRRI. I really like the DRRI.

The BJr was so harsh to my ear that a speaker swap never occurred to me. I just didn't want it in the house.

 

[fezz parka]

What speakers are bright? Every single Weber I've ever owned.

The Italian C12N is probably the best sounding speaker in that line. As far as Blues Jr's go, I've never heard one that I've liked. On the other hand, the Pro Jr is a great amp. Put one in a bigger cab with a 12 and you're getting into 5e3 type territory.

 

[ParaDoc]

For the JBL/aluminum cap=bright guys. Based on my experiences its not the aluminum cap making them bright. JBL D series went thru a major change in the late 60's. The original D120 and D130 were entirely paper cone speakers (with the alumonum cap). Those from the late 60's (even some of the grey frames) changed the makeup of the cone to a cloth surround. But far more significantly, the thickness of the paper in the cone was vastly increased. Stiff cone makes for a LOT of high end. Compare an original paper cone D120 or 130 to a later cloth suspended one and you'll hear a ton of difference.

 

[fezz parka]

Good info ParaDoc. That's my complaint with the Weber's I've had. Thick, heavy cones.

 

[BigDaddyLH]

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[JTM45blues]

Thanks JTM45! I'm glad to see somebody on this forum that agrees with my assessment of the Blues Jr. I had one for a week, while I tried tube swapping to see if I couldn't get it mellowed to bearable levels. At the end of that week I took the BJr to Guitar Center and traded it in for a DRRI. I really like the DRRI.

The BJr was so harsh to my ear that a speaker swap never occurred to me. I just didn't want it in the house.

Glad we could agree on that toneless door stop also. I had one when I began playing. It was awful, I owned a strat at the time and HATED the tone of them together it was an icepick through the eye ball. I tried to sell it to a guy that liked that type of tone. He was really excited about how bright and glassy sounding it was with his strat. But alas, his wife wouldn't let him open the purse strings. I think I sold it for like 2 bills.

The Pro Jr. is definitely a better amp. I think its better because its a really simple amp. The Blues Jr. has way too much going on. Plus the reverb on the Blues Jr. SUCKS!!!

 

[dmarcus30]

+1 on that! My 73 Twin came stock with K120s but I played through a buddy's Twin from the same year and he had the SRO "coffee can" spkrs and I got hooked. Still clean all the way up but without the harsh treble. This was in the days before "beam blockers"!

 

[Rick330man]

Celestion 70/80. They are everywhere. Shrill highs that need to be EQed down or your ears will bleed.