what s the name of that chord please ?

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  1. BigDaddyLH

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    Writing chords across the line is easier to write, and to read. Then your Dm7 chords are written x57565 and xx0211. Note that the second is just the first with the top A note removed: x5756x.

    The version without the top A works better because your chord sequence has all the chords with F as the top note, right?

    For a bit more interest in the chords, you can play the Bbm (xxx321) as a C phrygian chord: x3x321. Either way, the chord is playing the role of the dominant.
     
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    hence the link in my post #6. It becomes humorous at some point from a certain perspective.
     
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    The last two lines of Hopelessly Devoted to You has a variant of this cadence:

    Gdim Dm Dm/C# Dm/C Dm/B
    Hopelessly devoted to you
    Gm7 Gdim Bbm F
    Hopelessly devoted to you


    Hopelessly Devoted is a really interesting song, with the A section in the key of A major--or is it?--and the B section in F. I have not been able to think of another pop song in which the key of the B section or bridge moves like this one, down two whole steps (A to F). Thus I concluded that the A section was could be seen as being in Dm, the relative minor of F, though most of it is in the key of A major, other than the intro and final cadence which are in Dm. Here's a link: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/misc-soundtrack/grease-hopelessly-devoted-to-you-chords-78008

    Sorry for hijacking.
     
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    Didn't see anything to misunderstand..
    If E B an G are not Emi. then please tell me what the notes are in Emi..
     
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    In the OP's opening post the E,B & G are the string names, not the note names.
     
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    This is what Beagle saw:
    e-1-
    b-3-
    g-5-

    and misinterpreted it to mean note names. I don't know what he thought the numbers meant.

    To all - this can be avoided if we do chord pics like this : xxx531. Removes all ambiguity.
     
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    The notes are D, F, and C- so it is a Dm7 with no 5.
     
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    After realizing that the letters were the strings and the numbers were the fret, I now see it's D, F, and C, a Dm7 with no 5, and edited my post to reflect that
     
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    Now me, too!
     
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    Yes. I don't know why I wrote iii.
    I still hear it as a I chord ;).
     
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    They meant nothing, I didn't know why they were there until it was explained to me.
     
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    Dam, i would have thought tablatures were more popular here.
     
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    I've never used it, I understand these

    Em.png

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    I understand those too, but the sheet music takes me longer to understand.

    How would you write the sheet music for 022xxx ? and for x799xxx ? are they the same ? just curious.
     
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    Johnny, the sheet music doesn’t note positions on the fretboard unless notated especially for guitar. The player must f8nd the position they find most usable for them...and the passage. But...to the two chords you have there, no they are not written the same since the two cords are an octave apart.
    And, in beagle’s example, one would play that staff notated chord as xx200x since guitarists read an octave lower. That is, middle C is the first line below the basic staff, but a guitarist plays that note on the 3rd fret, 5th string.
     
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    That's clearer, though i can remember some of my classical lesson where the middle C was written between the 3 rd and 4th line of the sheet. anyway, thanks for the input.
     
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    That C that you describe when played by a guitarist will be the middle C on a piano. Perhaps that is what you are remembering. A pianist would play that C an octave above middle C on the keyboard.
     
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    +1. Guitar plays an octave below "concert pitch", which is how a piano would play. (The guitar is a "bass" instrument, by the way. And the bass guitar, like the upright bass is a "double bass" instrument: they use the bass clef but play an octave below what is written, too.) Technically (t-e-c-h-n-i-c-a-l-l-y), guitar music should use the following clef sign to indicate "play an octave below concert pitch", but no one but your maiden aunt uses this notation.

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    Yeah, if you look in academic 'orchestration' books we're referred to as a transposing instrument. It's only an octave transposition but a transposition nonetheless.
     
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