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Discussion in 'Tab, Tips, Theory and Technique' started by johnny k, Jan 17, 2020.
i saw Dm7, Csus2/4 and i don't even know what that last one means.
Sounds like an F6 with no 3rd
Csus2/4 ... I've never seen it written quite like that (and that's saying something).
I'm going to assume, without any context, that they want a the notes: C G D F. Usually a sus2 or sus4 omits the 3rd of the chord.
Maybe try this - X33533
What song is it from?
It is a bit of a stretch just do the chord D on the 5th fret
actually, it's from something i was messing around with, trying to make a tune out of it. I m pretty sure it s been done before, but i can t tell you the name of the song.
If i want to put some rhythm over that, i ve got ? / G7 / B minor flat / F. I don't really know what that first chord should be, hence my question.
edit maybe that could be the first chord
as a Dm7, it works on its own since there is the root D, the third F and the dominant 7 C notes. As a C chord, I consider it a Csus4+9.....the F ‘covers’ the third for the sustained 4th and the D is an added 9th. It can also be an F6(no third).
One would want to coordinate with the bass player if playing...or if trying to pull the chord out by ear one would want to know what the bass is doing.
in a larger context, those three notes can be parts of a number of other chords.
okay...here s what I would say about what you have there.....my take is that the first notes are a Dm7 and are the sixth chord in the key of F. The second chord is a diminished that is moving toward a Bb—-I like a Bbmaj7 there, but the last chord you give us...the 3/5/3/5 thing....could be used as a Bb+9 if the bass note is a Bb. That chord takes us to the tonal center of F.
Ymmv....but I could make it work that way.
I've not really thought about bass so far. I guess i ll randomly try some chords until i find the proper one. I was hoping for a standard chord, just like the 3 others. I don't really like wonky chords.
I don’t think of chords as wonky. If you heard what I did with what you started with, you might change your mind....or not....about more complex chords. After all, you have two stacked minor thirds in your second chord. One has to hear that it is not a ‘standard’ chord IF one is looking for nothing beyond simple major and minor chords. I had to look up ‘wonky’ just for clarification.
Enjoy the search.....
OK, now I understand what you're doing. *The TAB threw me.
Here's the chord progression you're playing:
F6 (or Dm7) - G7 - Bbm - F
I (or iii) - II - iv - I
Quite common really.
Thanks for the input folks.
The 2nd chord is just the notes of a G7 to me. Of course i can't see way farer than the tip of my nose so...
Maybe I don't understand the question, E-B-G is an Em chord.
That's what threw me.
E B G are how he designated the first three strings of the TAB.
Ah, I don't do tab.
Regarding the second assembly of notes, I agree that it can be a G7. However when I played those chords in succession, I hear stacked minor thirds there. As I said in my first post, what the rest of the players are doing determines things. I like hearing the diminished cord in the middle of that movement....and a G doesn’t work in that context. I also deviated from the third chord when I started playing through the changes. I changed that Minor third in the Bb. anyway, thanks for the exercise.....it can go in many different directions, imho.
Okay....if one uses the second three notes as a G7, what key are we in and what follows these chords?
I like to think of chords in relation to the key being played in, especially for major and minor keys. It really gets interesting when playing in modal keys. I’ve created harmonies in A Dorian sometimes using widely spaced triads that are impossible for me to name. A Dorian doesn’t resolve from a V7 to I. In fact when I play in the key, I loop back from a landing note without a resolving chord and the V chord I use to transition into a bridge might properly be called a minor 7th. Modal keys really get you thinking about chords differently. I’ve used passing notes to begin phrases in jazz and landing notes in place of chords. So to me,
may just be a useful triad that doesn’t need naming.