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What makes a tele, a tele?

Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by sergiomajluf, Apr 8, 2017.

  1. ebb soul

    ebb soul Poster Extraordinaire

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    Keefs' #1 has the proper bridge plate pickup assembly.
    And when he talks about them, that's the one (or Malcolm) he's referencing.
    He needs no 'straightening out'.
     
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  2. the tool

    the tool Tele-Holic

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    subjective for all.

    for me its the overall design factor (neck and body shape, bridge and controll plate) along with the feel and sound of single coils.
     
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  3. Piggy Stu

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    This discussion makes me think of taxonomy. What makes a bird a bird and a fish a fish

    There is the law. There is common parlance (people who call a tomato a vegetable not a fruit). There is the duck billed platypus examples of a telecaster with a duck bill, webbed feet that lays eggs and feeds milk to its young. Is it a mammal, or bird? Why can't we just accept it for what it is?

    All valid debates but I think the OP is asking what truly gives it its character. I wouldn't buy one without the normal bridge, but accept a broad church of pawn shop telecasters with strats necks etc

    All this tele-chat has made me thirsty, and I see my local store has a triple-tele in. 3 nocaster pickups - nom nom nom. Don't care what anyone classifies it as - if it is good it is coming home with me
     
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  4. ebb soul

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    Put it this way.
    Put a Strat bridge pup in there.
    You just lost the Teleyness.
    Gone.
    You know I'm right.
    No body shape or headstock configuration would make such impact.
    Doesn't matter about the neck pickup, or, whether there is one, at all.
    So the argument is 'if it looks like'
    Vrs 'if it sounds like'
    And I'm sorry but the whole point, yes it's entire reason for being, is to make sound.
     
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  5. terrybellcountr

    terrybellcountr Tele-Holic Gold Supporter

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    I thought "end of discussion" meant just that. But you´re apparently the kind of person that needs to be the last to finish a discussion.
    Please do not respond to this. For me it ended with the last reply
     
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  6. Piggy Stu

    Piggy Stu Friend of Leo's

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    You're the person saying the discussion is ended - I am posting in a forum for others to read

    Is there a forum rule that I cannot comment without your permission? Could you point me to it, to end my commenting? Can I command you to stop expressing an opinion, too?

    Happy to recognise your authority when you refer me to it
     
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  7. e44crowe

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    The body shape.
     
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  8. qblue

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    To me a Tele has to have an Ash body, because it makes a difference in sound, in comparison to Alder or Mahogany or Pine.

    The single coil bridge pickup sound is what the Telecaster is. This is at the center of the universe for the Tele sound.

    A 3 barrel bridge, either compensated or uncompensated. A 6 saddle bridge belongs on a Strat.

    The headstock shape is trademarked FMIC legal property. It is my favorite headstock next to the large late '60s-70s Strat headstock. No one can copy it, so any other brand is a T-style! It is pretty phallic looking, to me, in a Michaelangelo way. Very classic.

    A maple neck and fingerboard is important, but not as important as the pickups.
     
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  9. Little Red Tele

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    I'm going to change my mind and agree with this. Walk into a guitar store, spot that body shape, get pulled magnetically to that guitar. Wrong headstock, three pickups, tuneomatic bridge, etc., brain goes "ooooh...telly..."
     
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    It's the headstock ........
     
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    Pictures of a guitar I bought 3 from a company that promises a 55 point check. Squier called it the Vintage Modified Telecaster Special. There's a Jazzmaster neck pickup, a Jazzmaster headstock, with a Telecaster body, Tele bridge pickup, and a 3 barrel bridge.
     
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  12. sergiomajluf

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    I've read every response so far. Please be respectful, no need to argument over end or not end of discussion.

    Is great to read so many different approaches!

    Keep em coming
     
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    What the 'T' in T-Style stand for? [emoji48]

    I consider my parts cabronita a kind of Tele. So I guess my vote is that the body shape denotes the species within which exists many breeds, including the thoroughbred 'original'.
     
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    I think it's also the shape of the upper bout that makes it possible to do a neck bend vibrato. You just can't do that on a Strat, which is why suspect the vibrato arm comes in handy.
     
  15. P Thought

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    All this stems from the "classic" (the word means defining or representing the class) image of a Telecaster. When I joined TDPRI its logo was a classic Telecaster, the kind that Leo made in the '50s. A classicist has to include lots more--body shape, pickups, bridge plate, control knobs and switch plate, headstock, pickguard shape, maybe even scale length and nut width, and probably the logo--in ther definition, than does a tele enthusiast.

    Because of the simplicity of the body design (Leo Fender borrowed heavily in the first place from what he called a "Spanish guitar"), the tele is a perfect palette for modders, so Katy, bar the door!

    I'm pretty much a classicist, so I can't stray very far off the feature list before it's become something else, but if a tele enthusiast wants to call any guitar a tele, I'm okay with that.
     
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    Let's throw a big monkey wrench in here.
     

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    Haven't read this whole thread, but it's the bridge.
     
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    Body shape.
     
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    'Fender' and / or 'Telecaster' on the headstock.
     
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