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What makes a tele, a tele?

Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by sergiomajluf, Apr 8, 2017.

  1. sergiomajluf

    sergiomajluf Tele-Meister

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    Shape? Construction? Wood? Bridge? Pups?Hype?
     
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    Guitarteach Doctor of Teleocity

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    Marketing Dept.
     
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    I had not been paying attention to the market for years before I started posting here, again, a few months ago.

    I had no idea what a Cabronita was & I was totally unaware of the "new" dual humbucker models.

    But yeah... I eventually asked myself the same question.

    Fender has a dual TVJones custom shop model Telecaster. The only difference between it & a Cabronita, is the Tele controls & pick guard.

    So I'm thinking that's what makes the difference. Pickguard & controls.
     
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  4. Guitarteach

    Guitarteach Doctor of Teleocity

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    Telecaster or not? Saw one yesterday. Not. For me.

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    8barlouie Friend of Leo's Gold Supporter

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    It's kinda like porn. I can't describe what it is, but I sure know it when I see it.
     
  6. AngelDeville

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    For me it's the shape.

    Any pickup configuration is fine with me.

    NO [email protected]&$?!g belly cut! There are a couple models of telecaster I'd love to have but some genius at fender decided a belly cut would make it more appealing.

    The persons responsible should be stabbed in the eye with a tuning fork.
     
  7. Jupiter

    Jupiter Telefied Ad Free Member

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    Gestalt.

    There's the logo: it's a Telecaster if Fender sez it's a Telecaster. Not absolute, but for a LOT of folks it is undeniably a factor.

    The single cutaway body shape. It's iconic, and while you don't have to nail a vintage outline perfectly, the closer you are, the closer you are. Remember, there are crusty fellas around here that won't even put up with a forearm contour and a belly cut.

    The headstock. Some guys can't stand it if it ain't that vintage shape.

    Pickups: especially that bridge one! Put a humbucker in there, or a strat PU, and you are pushing on the boundaries.

    Bridge: for me, this might be the biggest factor. That metal bridge plate with the PU screwed onto it--that's the heart of things.

    3 saddles are also pretty archetypal, though there's a lot more acceptance of a six-saddle bridge, as long as you got the bridge plate.

    Wiring/switching, neck attachment, string-through/top-loader--alla that stuff works kinda the same way.

    So certain features aim towards the center of the bullseye, while other options pull you off the target to a greater or lesser degree. I don't think many folks will judge a guitar to be a tele or not based on any single criteria.

    See, that one makes me think: if it plays like a tele, and it sounds like a tele, and it scrapes the hell out of my wrist like a tele...
     
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    Philosophically speaking, this is a type of problem known as the Ship of Theseus. If we have the ship of Theseus, thousands of years old, in a museum, and it's needing a little repair, and we manufacture an iron nail and replace a worn out one, is it still the Ship of Theseus, or is it some new thing. Most of us would say "Still the ship of Theseus". So now we replace one worm-eaten board with a new board. Still the ship of Theseus? Yes. But go all the way, you replace all the parts, even with identical parts, and "suddenly" it's not the ship of Theseus anymore, but a copy.

    I think arguably a telecaster is a Fender instrument, with that body shape, and I would argue a single coil in the bridge and the telecaster pickup in the neck. Other configurations exist of course, but a dual humbucking telecaster is to me... something a little less telecastery. I would argue that my partscaster is not a Telecaster proper, but a "T-type" guitar.
     
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    Why would it scrape your wrists?
     
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    Jupiter Telefied Ad Free Member

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    Not both, just the picking hand one. Used to bloody it on the lip of the bridge plate, until I got a Gotoh with the edges cut back.
     
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    Ok, I just don't get it, never had that problem, glad you're not mutilating yourself anymore !
     
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    Bridge plate and pickup. End of story. The rest is window dressing.
     
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    What makes a tele, a tele?

    GRETCH.
    The Telecaster was originally called a Broadcaster.
    Then Leo had to Change the Name from Broadcaster to Telecaster because
    Gretch already was using that name for a drum kit they had.
     
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    Must include any two of the following:

    Six-string electric guitar
    25 1/2 inch scale
    Three-saddle bridge
    Slab body
    String through
    Single cutaway
    Two single-coil pickups
    Two knob
    Slim curvy headstock
    Round jack cup on the side
    Fender "TELECASTER" on the headstock

    For example, you could have a six-saddle bridge, two humbuckers and four knobs, and a Strat headstock, but if it says Fender "TELECASTER" and has a single cutaway, it's a Telecaster (Deluxe, in this case).

    Could have three pickups, six saddles, but then it's a Nashville Telecaster.

    However a single-cut, six-string slab body with two pickups and two knobs would be a Les Paul Jr., unless it has a three-saddle bridge and Fender on the headstock.
     
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    Nope. Gotta be a Tele body. This isn't a Tele either.

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    That's a Telecaster Junior I think. :)
     
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    Guitarteach Doctor of Teleocity

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    Maybe not. But I want one!
     
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    I like the shotgun shell knobbies.
    Shape shape shape.
     
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    Still a telecaster: IMG_0552.JPG

    Not a telecaster: IMG_0553.JPG
     
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    Body shape...aside from that there are Tele's of many varieties so you can't assign anything else unique to a Tele except body shape.
     
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