What made Ringo a great drummer

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  1. ClashCityTele

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    As UK comedian Phil Pope said in 1981:

    “Ringo Starr. Alright maybe he wasn’t the best drummer in the world. Alright, maybe he wasn’t even the best drummer in The Beatles”.

    But Thomas the Tank Engine wouldn't have been the same without him.
     
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    That was a fanTASTIC video!
     
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    Ringo has said that his fills are his art. He does do interesting fills... not always fancy, but always interesting.

    All the drummers I have played with had a hard time mimicking his stuff. They gained respect for him when we tried to cover his stuff, if they didn't have it before.

    I don't personally think he's as good as, say, John Bonham... but he's definitely under-rated. On the other hand, only four people on earth got to be The Beatles, so he's got that!
     
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    And one more: Buddy Saltzman. He was a prolific East Coast session man like Hal Blaine. Among his notable efforts, played drums on all the Four Seasons' records ( some epic work) and Locomotion.
     
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    You got that right. I took my girlfriend to see Herman's Hermits and the screaming was so loud that if you listened very carefully you could barely make out what song they were playing. You just saw their mouths moving and maybe a drumbeat and occasional guitar. And you can probably crank that up a few notches for the Beatles. With no monitors I don't know how those guys did it.
     
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    Cool, I'll have to youtube a little of that when I should be working today.
     
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    My drum teacher- this is back in high school, around 1969-71- was an older guy who had played in the Chicago Symphony in the 1920s. He told me the best drummer in rock and roll was Dino Danelli. Makes sense. Danelli was a protege of Gene Krupa, who was THE drummer in swing era. Danelli’s parts never stood out in a way that made you go, hey, listen to what the drummer is doing, but he had a rock solid sense of time, he swung like crazy, and never overplayed. He also made me want to learn to spin drumsticks ;-)
     
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    To me, the guy in the avatar looks like someone with a ginormous ego. :D
     
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    I think Danelli is a fantastic drummer. IMO he's one of the best in rock and pop music.

    It you get past his flashy approach to performance, he's the driver of the song, has his own voice on the drums, puts swing in pop and 'pop' in non-pop songs, and delivers what the song needs to work. It's often occured to me that he was the most distinctive musician in the Rascals.
     
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    Many have seen this clip above, but posting it again fills in some info on what we've been discussing farther down in this thread:

     
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    When one remembers that so many of these great tunes were B-sides...Some of which would have been the peak of a normal artist's career, and for these guys they were throwaways...Pure genius.
     
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    I don't really play a ton of Beatles at the house. At any given moment you're more likely to hear Wayne Shorter, Keith Jarrett and Stevie Wonder at my place than just about anything else.

    What kinda blows my mind is that my 10 year old loves the Beatles. And 'knows' them when he hears them. Even if it's a tune that I know he hasn't heard.

    When the 4 of them were together - there was no one better. A high bar indeed.
     
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    what's the old saying "you are what you eat"....you are what you listen to, no matter what you play.
     
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    Ignore: I replied to wrong post.
     
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    A merseybeat drummer who could keep up with some of the most diverse and experimental songwriters in the pop genre, and get a groove on with Paul’s inventive bass lines. He wasn’t a jazz or heavy rock drummer. He did what he needed to. Maybe not a lot more but my fondness for those recordings are for all of them including the drums.
     
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    Yes, a great drummer who gets overlooked. I saw the Rascals twice in the '60's and he's something else. Extremely flashy with the twirling and tossing the sticks in the air without missing a beat. I still count out the pause in Good Lovin' every time I hear it. Come in on the eighth best.
     
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    Dino is definitely one of the best, and he made sure he had a style all his own. Watching him play is why I took up drumming in Junior high school! And he played in a top notch band with Felix Cavalier! The Rascals were so totally underrated!
     
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    For those who think Pete was better than Ringo:

     
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    Stu? The original bass player? What did he have to do with Ringo's arrival?

    As for his Ego, I'd love some backstory here because that's not the impression I have ever gotten from him. Although I have not met him myself I have heard many positive stories about Ringo from people that have... and from a couple musicians that had a chance to work with him on one of his "all star band" tours.

    I don't doubt that some people may have had a bad encounter with him and may have written about it, but context is everything... and all of us (if famous enough) could be slagged for our responses during ill timed encounters.
     
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    The three other guys...
     
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