what machine heads fit this fender neck

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  1. ben smith

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    after buying substandard necks from substandard companies recently for my next build only the best will do. this is the specs for the neck, are they kluson holes? I just can't tell the spacing looks weird. thanks
    Fender 1951 Telecaster Neck MN, U-Shape/9.5" Radius preview.jpg preview (1).jpg
     
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    Almost all MIM necks for "vintage" tuners are to be matched with Ping splits, except for a few with Gotoh locking vintage machines. This means the Gold Standard Gotoh split (Allparts # TK 0880) would require conversion bushes and some enlargement of the hole.

    However, I THINK either or both of the WD and Wilkinson brand "split" machines can work. We need someone who uses those to confirm this, though.

    The one MIM neck that uses conventional Gotoh splits (like USA AVs do) is the Jimmie Vaughan. It stands alone.

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    I used to take Ping splits off of MIM guitars and replace them with Gotoh splits. But these days, nobody does that anymore. The Ping splits have improved that much.
     
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    I don't have the same exact neck but my Mexican 60s neck takes "vintage" style tuners. I would shoot Fender an email if you don't have a way to measure. I've had good experience with the customer service.
     
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    thanks the for reply
     
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    thanks the for reply
     
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    these look like standard kluson style tuners to me? so these would work?
     
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    it does seem like it’s made for a STRIP of vintage/non-sealed ‘heads
     
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    The Mexican Classic series necks can take Classic vibe, Kluson, Fender and Gotoh vintage style tuners.
    They are all the same size and screw spacing. The bushings might vary although I've never had any trouble interchanging them all on Allparts, mim Classic series and Classic Vibe necks.

    I stick with Kluson stamped (WD) tuners for 60's or the Classic vibe non stamped tuners for 50's both in nickel.
    Make sure you see a pic of the split shaft if ordering online, Wilkinson and a few others offer posts with holes in the side like acoustic tuners. They suck imo.
     
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    thanks man, the only thing throwing me off about it is the last hole on the top of the headstock looks really far up if you know what i mean? the distance between all the holes just looks different, like they should all be centered more. a beautiful high quality white blonde ash body is going on this build too s-l1600.jpg
     
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    It looks good to me, the screw should sit about 14-15 mm from the centre of the last post. The first screw is positioned about 9-10mm from the centre of the first post on Vintage, Kluson style tuners. Its a hard thing to measure precisely when the tuners are fitted but I just measured mine with a tape measure to get the above measurements.
    That body looks nice, should be a cool tele when you get done.
     
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    sweet thanks. yeah the body isn't cheap, it's going to have all gold hardware good pickups and a chopped guard, it will be stunning!
     
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    Kluson's will work. I bought an MIM lacquered Strat neck, they're cut for vintage style tuners. Kluson, Ping...anything with vintage specs will work.
     
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    do you have any idea what size string tree this will have? i know it's a single round type tree but they come in 5mm or 7mm tall
     
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    I have a classic 50s strat neck and my vintage style Kluson line up perfectly, however the peg hole is 1mm wider than the US necks I've used. The bushings would just fall out when I tip the guitar over. They make conversion bushings that fit the MIM holes perfectly and allow you to use normal Kluson tuners
     
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    I'm not sure on that, I don't have my guitar handy atm but I use the shorter string tree of the two on my necks with 60's style string trees.
     
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    That appears to be for vintage style Klusons.
     
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    I am a massive pearloid fan but not sure that would world on the white blonde? i also like chopped guards. but I am thinking 1ply white for sure would look nice, ill try a few. great pick though yum!
     
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    so what size bushings would I need? 8 or 10 mm? thanks
     
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    You'll likely need a conversion bushing so that the skinny vintage post is firmly centered in the larger diameter reamed hole.

    There are many different sizes. The stewmac site can be used for reference. I ended up with some from ebay.

    There are many little differences - you can certainly get exactly what you want if measure twice and know what the dimensions are.

    https://ebay.us/lHcRDQ

    https://www.stewmac.com/Items.aspx?search=Tuner_parts/Tuner_Bushings
     
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