What kind of wood is this?

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  1. Mysterious

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    Japanese fender tele. TL-72 in neck heel.. very light. Also cannot easily make dings with fingernail so its not too soft. 35135CA0-BE62-4379-8268-32BD1FA0426B.jpeg 35135CA0-BE62-4379-8268-32BD1FA0426B.jpeg 35135CA0-BE62-4379-8268-32BD1FA0426B.jpeg
     

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    Looks like alder but I am not sure
     
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    Alder was my first thought, though there are some spots that look more like poplar.
     
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    I've seen a lot of alder bodies but the wood on this one looks like something else...
     
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    I'm definitely going with Poplar. Inexpensive because of it's look and softness but can produce some killer tones. I've mainly found it's at it's best when used as a Tele body.
     
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    Probably agathis.

    Poplar is classified as a hardwood--because it's hard. Not as hard as maple, but harder than most pines.

    Pressing a dent into poplar with a fingernail is not easy, so it could be poplar.

    Agathis:

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    OK, someone had to do it:

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    My first thought was Alder, but then I looked up the TL-72 and knowing what was common for MIJ Fender during those years I'm going to say Basswood, maybe Poplar. Probably Basswood.

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    My 1st thought was Poplar

    A real underrated electric wood IMO
     
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    Re-reading the whole thread....the fact that its a Fender Japan body makes me think @Peegoo is correct with Agathis
     
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    Might be alder, need a pic with it "wetted".
    Could definitely be Poplar though, but Pop usually has more discoloration greenish areas.
    I've ordered blocks of Basswood for carving and it's definitely not like what I received... which was softish and more open grain.
    The routing looks like it broke out little pieces of material a lot of places... almost leads me to believe it's a type of Ash that is not showing much grain as white as it is. Wet it!
     
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    If it’s Japanese production depending on the year it might be basswood or even Paulownia if it’s more recent. Both are softer and lighter than alder and common.

    You can check if it’s basswood by resting it near the gear and see if starts trying to mess with the PA.
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    Annular ring porous grain as seen in neck pocket shots eliminates any wood without that specific trait It is not alder or poplar (or basswood)

    this web page has an extensive section on porosity: https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/hardwood-anatomy/

    I am not very sure about agathis, I have not worked with it. There are many agathis subspecies, but the photos of Kauri end grain look nothing like that.

    As for hardwood vs softwood and the fingernail test, the nomenclature is not representative of the actual hardness of the wood. I live in pine aspen forest and the aspen here which is a hardwood is physically much softer than the douglas fir which is a softwood. And if you look at wood hardness charts, you find that yew, a softwood is much harder than may hardwoods.

    https://www.diffen.com/difference/Hardwood_vs_Softwood



    I am perplexed that it is "Very light" but you can't dent it. Appearance wise pawlonia is a close match:

    https://www.wood-database.com/paulownia/

    I refinished a pawlonia strat, same kind of grain and lightness (Too light, the neck dives), but I could make a mark with fingernail.
     
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    I guess basswood because it was common in the MIJ's and looks about right.

    I wouldn't call basswood "very light" though, more like medium to light weight.
    How light is very?
    Looks like 4 1/2 lbs from here!
    AKA a little over 2000g!
     
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    Poplar (which is not actually from poplar trees, it comes from Liriodendron Tulipifera) is quite soft. The terms "hardwood" and "softwood" are misleading, softwood just means it's from a conifer. Softwood may be harder than hardwood- southern yellow pine is harder than "poplar".
     
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    Hi Unc. There are a few different kinds of Poplar. The kind they sell at lumber yards is Liriodendron, as Unc noted. It's never as pale as the wood in the OP photos, it has an olive green hue when fresh cut; eventually it turns brown. IME it's quite hard, similar to soft maple. I'm guessing that body is basswood. It could be some asian species that we, here in the states, aren't familiar with, .
     
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    Most of those Japan guitars Fender Tokai are Basswood
    Nice scorch mark there getting the paint off it
     
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    Here's a hunk of unfinished poplar.

    No green on the front, but there was some on the back. It ended up being Dakota Red anyway.

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