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Discussion in 'Music to Your Ears' started by Frank'n'censed, Apr 9, 2018.
The Terry Kath era is the only one for myself...what are your thoughts?
Fan of the Kath era, especially the earlier material of that era. Terry Kath is a killer guitarist that is under the radar for many. I liked the songwriting in general during the early period too.
Mongo dont like
Instrumentally, they are awesome. Maybe only Tower of Power has a more impressive horn section. I saw them April 1970 at Bristol (CT) Catholic High School and even then, my impression was - incredibly tight, Kath was a guitar monster, didn't care for the songwriting, didn't care for the well-executed vocals. Of course, they followed the money and rode Cetera's cloying vocals and the happy, happy tunes all the way. I mean, who wouldn't? But, when they became the soundtrack for every girl's dorm in rotation with Dan Fogelberg and Cat Stevens, I stopped listening altogether.
Insultin’ their thing...
He don't give a damn about any trumpet playin' band
It ain't what he call rock and roll
While I will admit to liking a few later songs, the original band was great. I think I saw them three times.
The earlier the better.
Some great tunes, some great players. Straightforward and sincere, even their drippy stuff.
I recommend watching the Kath documentary made by his daughter and the CNN special if you are interested.
They get a bad rap for being Yacht Rock or just not rock n roll enough but they are musicians and they are great.
Still don't really know what 25 or 6 to 4 means.
In 1975, I bought a 4-album set of them at Carnegie Hall, recorded in 70 or 71 I think. That set is absolutely fabulous. There's no way they could have ever compared to that in the post-Kath era. If they had changed their name (like Jefferson Airplane ~ Jefferson Starship) I might have liked them later on, but I could never again listen without making that comparison in my head.
A buddy of mine claims it’s a hallucinogenic reference
I saw them once a hundred years ago....Terry played something that looked like a Les Paul Recording. After he died, I wanted to still like the band, but their soul (and essence) had died with him. It's funny, too....I had (early on) preferred Robert Lamm and Peter Cetera as vocalists, only after Terry died did I realize what he brought to their songs, over and above his amazing guitar skills. Just one of too many artists who passed too soon.
The third album is a monster. Very "under the radar." I love this song:
I've come to believe it's a "time" reference....meaning "25 or 26 minutes to 4) I've heard people state a time in kind of shorthand.
I thought it just meant 3:35 or 3:34.
Never cared for horn bands much but i liked them better than BS&T.
I'd say that their later stuff, when Cetera was singing those ballads, could be called yacht rock, but their first 6 or 7 albums were anything but.
According to Robert Lamm, he was up very late at night writing songs, and at one point looked at the clock to see what time it was (Does anybody really know?). It was 25 or 26 minutes to 4:00 am. 25 or 6 to 4.
edit...oops. This has already been answered.
As others have pointed out-Only the Terry Kath version. They had it going for a couple of albums. The double album (Chicago) was stunning. Kath seemed to keep the others egos in check. Once gone they simply went pop. Can't blame them for following the dollar.
Not a big fan.
Early stuff was indulgent, boring, meandery for me. If a song is 9+ minutes long it better be going somewhere and saying something. Not just and exist as an excuse for each section of the band to "solo" or "explore and idea". I'd rather sing along to the later era schlock rock, to be honest.
And yes, I did buy and download the early albums on a friend's recommendation. And I am still bitter about it.