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what is the “tweed” sound?

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by 100LL, Jul 1, 2020.

  1. fish4blues

    fish4blues TDPRI Member

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    Listen to this Eric Clapton "Sunshine of your Love" song - Cream - then at 1:41 you will see the stacked fender tweeds behind Clapton. This is the "tweed" sound. Just forward to about 3:00 for solo... thats it right there Fuzzy - Sweet - Fat!


     
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  2. JuneauMike

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    The guitar solo there always seemed so out of place with the rest of the song. Everytime I hear it, I just starts singing "Blue Moon, you saw me standing alone ... "
     
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    Here is one example of Tweed Tone: Neil Young's '59 (modified 6L6GC) 5E3 Fender Tweed Deluxe.
     
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    And ZZ Top Jesus Left Chicago Fender 5E3 Tweed Deluxe.
     
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    Joe Walsh once said "all you need for the Joe Walsh sound is a fender telecaster and a Fender Champ" :)
     
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  6. Maguchi

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    Well put. The tweed sound is more than just a single sound. There is clean tweed, dirty tweed and tweed sounds in between those two. Small tweed amps, big tweed amps etc.
     
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  7. Jammin'John

    Jammin'John Friend of Leo's

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    Ahh,the Tweed Sound !

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    I can only speak of my 5E3 clone.

    I played a Twin Reverb for twenty years and I loved the tubey clean it produced. I've owned a bunch of other tube amps and did not like their distorted tones. To me they were raspy, abrasive. granular...

    When I got my 5E3 the distortion was sweet and smooth, creamy. For the first time I loved an amp's distorted sound. It's the sound I had in my brain over the many years finally realized.
     
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  9. Maguchi

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    Whew, that one never gets old. Thanks!
     
  10. Jay Jernigan

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    I skipped over but will take a leap of faith that the preceding posts are true and accurate.
    That said, my only experiences with '50's Fender Tweed amps are that the small ones are not my cup of tea: much too trashy and not loud enough. They do, however, have an extension speaker jack that can be converted to a line level output with two resistors.
    A Tweed Bassman? Maybe the best sounding guitar amp, ever.
     
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    Alex W Friend of Leo's

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    Maybe this has already been mentioned, but one great thing about tweed amps is the way that the floating baffle and the pine cabinet make for a hint of reverb. And the fact that you're actually hearing wood vibrate along with the speaker, the sound is more organic (literally) than a tube driven reverb circuit.
     
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    Best tweed comparison ever
     
  13. David Barnett

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    Don't you think there might be a fuzz pedal involved here?
     
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    More Rich Robinson Tweed

     
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    Looks like a couple of tweed deluxes are sitting next to each other behind him.
     
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    No fuzz pedal needed just the mid boost on 10 and the tone rolled off on the guitar.
     
  17. Reivaj

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    Tweed sound is the sound of the Fender amps of the 50s (say 1952 to 1960).


    They have a different sound compared to the 60s Fender sound, the “Blackface” sound. In the early 60s there’s a transition from Tweed to Blackface, and the aesthetics more or less match that transition (brown face and blonde looks).


    That’s the first thing that should be clear.

    The aesthetics of current amps don’t have to do with the circuit design and sound necessarily.


    Now, describing the sound of the 50s Tweed family amps is another thing. First you have to bear in mind that we are talking about a range of amps, they all have particular characteristics, but yes, they have some common elements.

    Some examples have been discussed here.


    I just want to highlight an often overlook side of the tweed family: the clean sound. To me, a Strat or Tele into a tweed Deluxe amp can yield some of te most beautiful clean sounds possible. Rich, full, shiny but fat, with a beautiful sustain.


    The dynamics of your playing are absolutely crucial with this kind of amps, much more so than with more modern amps like a blues Jr.


    Another interesting point is how most people talk about mid frequencies. Tweeds are extremely rich in mid frequencies, no wonder, but when we talk abou mid boost or mid scoop, we never say which zone of the mids we are talking. Boosting the 300 Herz zone sounds absolutely different than boosting the freqs around, say, 800herz (I think tubescreamer type pedals boost that freq zone), let alone 2000 herz.


    We say Blackface amps are mid scooped but beware, they are very powerful in certain low mids areas.
     
  18. David Barnett

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    Good summary there.

    BF amps mid suckout is centered around 500Hz.
     
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    Best examples for the tweed sound!!!!
     
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    I thought it might be a pair of Deluxes
     
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