what is a good vintage tube bass amp for recording?

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  1. Marquee Moon

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    tone is more important the volume. We arent recording in a large area. set up will be a tweed deluxe amp and a vox ac30, drummer, and the bass player in a small basement. I want something suited to cranked rock music, stooges, sex pistols etc.
     
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    A SF Bassman - as long as you don't want slap.

    AC30 is going to kill everything else....
     
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    an ampeg flip top seems to have a good track record.
    I think the current reincarnations are the portaflex line
     
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    yup. I like the Bassman, any version.
    And the smaller Ampegs are very nice.
    But what I bought ( and very cheaply , I might add) is a Line 6 Lowdown Studio 110.
    I mean like, don't tell anybody but it's a modeling thing .
     
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    Recording bass only with a mic is not my cup of tea (heck I'd rather go only direct any day and twice on Sunday) but an Ampeg B15 is a classic choice.

    But again,in such a small room and with two guitar amps blasting go direct and thank me later.

    The ABSOLUTELY best ever bass amp for recording is this anyway

    https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/ampegsvx/



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    70s tube Ampeg.

    Get one that matches the volume you'll be playing at.
     
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    Yup. I totally agree based on the style of music they are creating.

    This video is good recording insight:

     
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    It's been a while since we recorded, but I'm pretty sure our bass player went direct, but used an Ampeg ' flip top' as we recorded our old CD ' live in studio'

    Edit- after re-reading OP, it almost sounds like a good 'ol SVT ( with one 8X10 cab) compliments the amps used ( AC 30 cranked is LOUD!) and the music, but it is huge, and $$- probably overkill- our bass player had an SVT head when we started playing in '92 and it weighs 90 lbs.!
     
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    As stated above, An Ampeg SVT is the best sounding amp in the history of mankind, live or studio. IMHO. Not sure about the reissues although I did see Tony Campos of Static X use one live on the last tour with Ministry that I can only assume was a reissue, and his tone was perfect and unbelievable. Cut right thru a very very loud mix with a very focused, tight and round sort of sound.
     
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    Yes I would also say go direct.

    If there are enough channels I would mic and record the amp. Blend the two in the mix.
     
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    I think of the B15 as more of a round clean sound, people did crank them BITD ( thus the numbers found w/ blown transformers) but that’s not really it’s thing. In a small space are you really sure you want to crank a AC-30? It will cause balance problems and probably put the Deluxe in a bad place. If you are using a modern MV model or pedals, you could use most anything for bass a V-4b is a good choice if you want the bass to have some hair a Bassman could work, if you go w a SVT perhaps use only one or even a different combination of smaller cabs. You could also split the signal or even put the bass on at a different time and/or on multiple tracks. That opens up the option of funky practice amps or low power heads thru a modern cab. One of the best rock bass sounds I use is a tweed champ kit thru a old 1x12 practice amp box that has a EV in it. Fat W /bit of hair.

    I woul consider loosing the big Vox all together especially if you really want to go live.. get a smaller el-84 based amp and you open up a lot of space for the other players, consider a simple vintage type drum kit also..look at intensity for that style not simply volume.
     
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    Oops
     
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    A small recording space = bass bleed on other tracks (to me).

    Having a bass amp will most likely flood a smaller room. I would go with a direct-in approach if I were you and monitor your playing through headphones.

    I've made some great recordings this way. Here's a blurb on the unit I currently use (although I now have a Fender Jazz Bass instead of the one mentioned in this thread):

    https://www.tdpri.com/threads/behringer-v-tone-bass-driver-di-bdi21-review.665639/



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    yeah I'll ask my buddy about looking into that, because he is new to tube amps. Maybe an ac10 or something would work better. The tweed deluxe RI is pretty loud aswell.
     
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    we went direct and it didn't feel right, so the engineer added a small bass amp to the DI box. might have been SS. The room is is covered in fuzzy carpet, so it is pretty dead. So there might have been bleed but overall the recording sounded good to me.
     
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    I'm a little late to this thread....

    It's been mentioned a few other times, but the Ampeg B15 Fliptop is the most recorded bass amp in history. I'm not saying it's the best for any particular job you are doing... just that you hear that on more recordings than you could ever imagine and that should count for something.

    That said... it is pretty rare to (solely) mic a bass amp in the studio. I have never been to a studio that didn't have a "Sans Amp Bass Driver"... and I don't remember the last time I did a session where it wasn't used. They are extremely versatile and sound great. Send the direct signal to the board/interface and send the output to any bass amp you want to use in the live space. Let the Bass Driver provide the tone!
     
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    This. An olé Ampeg B-15 will give you all you need. Good enough for James Jameson, good enough for me! I had to sell mine years ago to pay bills. Still miss that amp!
     
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