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Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by FredDairy, Mar 8, 2014.
Fender Modern C 1st .830 12th .880
'Chunky' to me is more related to thickness than width. Width has never been a problem but the shape and thickness of the back is where I run into trouble. Sounds like I'd never be able to play a GE Smith.. Thank Leo for the 60s necks!
This I like. I think we can all discuss this more intelligently if we have a better known context on which to speak.
Dont get me wrong-the neck is very important, and I know this-but outside of the Baja and Nocaster (which I have maybe 20 minutes on) I dont think I can add anything. I have calipers and know how to use them-but I haven't used them on guitars, and frankly I wonder about the consistency of guitar neck anyway.
Im not saying exact measurements aren't useful or even desired-just that they are rare on forums and may not always matter.
Buffalo hump. Cushings?
I think you're missing a bit of the point. Every guitar I've played has felt different in my hands. I could go blue in the face throwing out adjectives trying to describe them. Chunky, rounded, fat, thick, skinny, slim, slender and no one will really know what I'm talking about. An actual number of just the front to back depth will give most of us, at least those of us who have played enough necks some idea of what that guitar will feel like. Not exactly, but .825 .900 in the first fret area means more to be descriptively than "thick c" or "u".
According to Wildwood here's a '65 oversized C on a AV RI Strat. .800 1st - .950 12th.
My CS 63 explicitly has a 65 Neck: Not sure why a '65 Oversized C would be smaller!
BTW its a lovely neck, "full" without being demonstrably "Chunky"
7lb 4oz (feels featherweight)
65 C neck .83 - .96
Abigail Ybarra Handwounds
Gratuitous porn shot:
I'm a big neck guy, so chunky for me is 1.33 thick, all the way down, 1.75 nut.
Here is one beside a 70's fender neck.
Completely agree. Same goes with frets. What does medium jumbo even mean? Apparently, it can vary wildly. But if you say .079" wide and .047" tall, no need for anything more. Obviously, with necks there's more than just two measurements to deal with, but if you cite the width at the nut, the depths at the first and twelfth frets and a general profile shape, that's infinitely more descriptive (and useful) than 'chunky neck'.
Holy crap!! That's a huge neck.
I have a Warmoth Fatback in 1.75" width that I really like. Would love to try one bigger, but not sure I'd get along with it.
I have a .90-.99" Musikraft with a vintage 1 5/8" nut.
For me, it comes down to nut width, as long as the neck isn't skinny and it fills my hand I can play it well and comfortably, as long as the nut is wide enough.
I wish I could order a ton of different specs and have them all setup on bodies just to hone in and be sure of exactly what I want instead of taking a shot in the dark each time I get a new neck.
My fantasy guitar neck would be 1" at the 1st fret, and 1" at the 12th fret. And I do not have big hands.
I know what you mean.
When trying to figure out my ideal profile, I figured I'd shape a piece of wood myself to see what works.
I pickup up a 2x2 to try it out.
I knew I was in trouble when I rounded the corners and thought, "Wow, this feels pretty good!). Lol!
Then I quickly found out that there is no CNC program that goes past an inch thick, so none of the major neck makers could help.
Thankfully, I found a great guy willing to hand carve a couple of fatties for me. I fell in love and quickly ordered 3 more.
Now I'm fully addicted. On the plus side, my guitar gas is now at zero. Everything I pick up feels like a freaking mandolin!
If you ever travel to NYC, stop by Carmine Street Guitars and play a Rick Kelly Tele.
A double DD neck is the definition of chunky.
The Bowery pine Tele is unbelievable...
I have a G.E. Smith Tele, I forget the exact dimensions but it is a relatively thick neck with a compound radius found only on this model.
I bought it because in three years of shopping it was the first Tele I picked up that was comfortable for me and didn't cramp my hand after five minutes of playing.
Most guys I hand it to say "whoa man that's a baseball bat, how do you play that?"
Although, there are times I wish for a thicker neck. One of these days I'm going to sit down and whittle out a piece of wood that is perfectly comfortable for me and find someone with a duplicating lathe and have a neck made that size.
It will probably end up about 2" with a "U" profile, I'm talking THICK!
The older I get, the more I abuse my hands doing heavy mechanic work on trucks and equipment, always using my grip, the more they seize up and hurt and my playing slows down.
A bigger neck might keep me playing comfortable awhile longer.
Yes, Rick is amazing.
This is the neck of the custom he made for me. (Same guitar as my profile pic)
It's his Double D profile, no truss, 130+ year old Fir from the Chelsea Hotel.
I haven't measured it, but it feels around 1 1/8" or so.
Every time I play her I feel like the luckiest bastard alive.
There's a common misconception that "1 + 5/8ths" remains the nut width standard on vintage themed North American Fender models.
I find Fender offers two basic widths, 1 +11/16ths and 1.650. Now, G + L and Allparts (and some MIJs) do an honest 1 + 5/8ths and to me, there's more difference at the nut between the 1 + 5/8ths and the 1.650, than between the 1 + 11/6ths and the 1.650.
Some older Gibsons have some truly, extremely narrow necks at the nut. Gibson's 1 + 11/6ths and most North American Fender necks, the nut width differential is of no consequence at all to me. Everything else is where it is at, save fret types which are really fairly similar. Scale, effective board radius, and the way the players left hand addresses the canted neck, and the difference in the compliance of a mahogany neck versus a maple one totally swamp or obscure any nominal width measurements at the nut.
It's funny how the vintage spec is 1 5/8 nut width. Yet my slimmest AV RI is 1.650 at the nut.
That's a heck of a neck there. Beautiful. I've never played one that was too big for me, but you might have it there.
Any problems getting relief in that neck? What size strings do you use?
A friend has a Musikraft neck that's an inch thick at the nut, nut is 1 3/4" wide, and the profile has plenty of shoulder. With the truss rod slack, it was dead straight with anything smaller than 11s. With 11s and the truss rod slack, we got .01" of relief.
crikey! the john holmes of Teles