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Discussion in 'Band Wagon' started by charlie chitlin, May 20, 2019.
a great man once asked,
"is you hall or is you oates?"
Lotsa good stuff to think about, here.
Thanks for taking the time.
It's hard for me to see these things objectively because I live in a major metro area and, brutally frankly, would never bother to go out and see a 3rd rate band like mine...but I'm sure glad lots of folks feel otherwise!
In support of a 2nd front, I think you should be REALLY good before you inflict your singing all night on a crowd, and I'm hoping to find a good way to mix it up a little to keep things interesting.
Been there... I am "the keef" in my band I rule how we play, I play guitar, sing, write songs with my "Ron wood" thew other guitar player. I jump, shout at the public, do the duck step like chuck berry... then we had a harp player that started doing the chorus thing... oh my, he is better singer... oh my, he is a better frontman.... so he started singing instead of me. I am more rocker he is more bluesman
Now... what should I do? sack him because he is better? The band now is better, I can focus in the guitar and doing chorus. I still sing some songs as the other guitar does but the band is better and I can dance and play instead as you have been told, being tied to the mic
Well, 20 years after I know we did the correct thing. We have a great band and we are all great friends.
Don't bother, embrace
I do a lot of the singing in my band and I'm really getting too old to sing all night long. I would be happy if we had another good singer who could take over some of the lead vocals.
Guessing you're not a Deadhead, huh? Two (or more) frontmen is not only a possibility, but is actually all the more entertaining. I'm willing to bet that you'll both appeal to the audience in different ways. Just support each other and play to the song. When it's his turn to "front" the band, be the best supporting musician you can...I'm sure he'll do the same when it's your turn.
Let the best be the one. Give him some leash and see if he really can stay between the lines though...
I'm not clear on what you mean by "Frontman." Are you the guy who talks to the audience, tells jokes, introduces the band and reminds the patrons to tip their wait staff or are you the "star" of the band, the main singer, lead guitarist?
I've always played in collective sorts of bands where different people sang, there was more then one soloist and so on. I liked passing the torch around over the course of the gig and the audience seemed to liked it too.
Do you want it to be YOUR band, or do you want it to be the best band it can be? Roger Daltrey was a great frontman, but The Who was really Pete Townshend’s gig. Of course, there’s also Brian Jones...
All that and treasurer, songwriter, arranger, gig booker, PA schlepper....
Got it. So you're the "Bruce" and he's the "Clarence." Without seeing you interact, it's kind of hard to call it. I guess it depends on what you want the band to be. If his stuff adds to the band, give it a go. But if it diminishes it, or you feel like you're being squeezed out of your own band, you might want to keep him on a tighter leash.
Which one's Pink?
It's totally cool to tell the guy you really like what he does, and you'd like to share the stage with him. It's okay to be totally honest and say that you enjoy doing some of the singing and aren't ready to let it go, even if you have very different styles
You sound as though you are worried.
Go through all the possibilities and see where you come out.
Your Band, Your Tunes, if that is what you book, stay with it.
This guy might leave for greener pastures, would your Bandmates follow?
How would you replace him and those who leave?
Whatever you do, keep your cool.
Let him loose on a few tunes and check the audience reactio . Then take it from there. It can't hurt to have some variety
To me, it's not even a question. Whoever is stronger musically in the singer/frontman role does it, and it's the other guy. If it is really "your" band, and everyone else knows that, then of course you can do what you want if that is your goal, as it would be for many people. You can have a band that's less strong musically but more fun for you, if your heart is in fronting. Personally, I wouldn't do that and never have -- I keep it easy on myself and my ego by always deferring to what leads to the most compelling music.
If he sang like Bobby or Brent, I wouldn't let him near a mic.
If you're a professional band (this is your living), you put every player where they are the best at what they do. If you put this time and effort into the band simply because you love to do what you do, then you should do what you love.
I was gonna suggest getting him hooked on, uh, something, and make sure you're his source so he's dependant on you. But, this is a family board, so let's just say that 'something' is success.
Write to his talents. Make that the act. Push it as far as you can go with it. Make him dependant on you as the person who knows how to make him successful. Be that team, and know your place in it.
Hey now...Bobby fans are people too!