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Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by Tdurden032, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. Tdurden032

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    Hey all - long time lurker and enjoyer of the collective wisdom here over the years but new member and first time poster. I was gas’ing for a tele after growing up playing my dad’s butterscotch esquire (maybe the best neck on a guitar that I’ve ever put my hands on), and had an old Ibanez JS100 laying around that I wanted to switch up. I wound up trading the JS for a what I think may be a MIJ deluxe telecaster, but it has a replacement neck, which I think is beautiful and comfortable but I’ve been on a mission to try to bring this back to its original glory (or as close as I can). The previous owner stuck a fender sticker on the headstock (but was at least honest about it), the neck looks/feels great, it has a contour body, three single coils and is a great player from start to finish. I think it may be a mid 90’s deluxe tele - the previous owner claimed it was a 80’s Japanese tele and had indicated that it was owned by a luthier who replaced the neck, but thought I’d poll the experts in the forum here. I’ve updated the pickguard and pickup covers (profile photo), and think that I would like to get this back as close to original spec as possible. Any recommendations? The pickups are a little on the quiet side but they sound good through a nice tube amp, the sustain is a little short but overall tone is great - I’m curious to learn what I am working with and what needs to be done to get it back to its factory glory. Thanks in advance! 19B77167-5A91-4DC7-9297-B54148F704D7.jpeg
     
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    Howdy and welcome!
     
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    Thanks so much - I really have enjoyed coming to the forum off and on over the years, this was always my go-to spot for any technical or otherwise tele-related questions!
     
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    You could start with the replacing the 3 pups with 2 (I recommend a set of Broadcaster/Twisted Tele pups) or something hotter like Texas Specials).

    Though I'm not sure what they had in the 90s. Do you have any idea what model that is? They were making Standards back then and I'm sure the pups used weren't too different from when they discontinued the model a few years back. The bridge suggests a Standard but the only Tele I was playing then was an 80s MIJ Squier with a vintage bridge.

    Just talking off the top of my head. That's not any real information but your post has been up here for awhile and I thought I'd give it a bump until the people with real info come along.

    Anytime guys...guys?

    Welcome to the forum. Gotta great project going. Cheers
     
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    Might want to disassemble it and see what you find under the pickguard, bridge, and in the neck pocket.
     
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    Thanks for the suggestions - I’m liking the idea of a pup upgrade (the 5-way control is backwards but with my huge hands and crazy playing, I’m constantly accidentally switching positions when the switch is forward or accidentally rolling off the volume with the switch in the back). The two pickup idea with a more traditional switch has some appeal and I can just make a new pickguard and control plate to accommodate the upgrades - which would be a fun project. I’m totally in the dark as to what model this is and will check under the scracthplate and see what the pickups tell me (regarding electronics), I disassembled it last year and can’t remember what I found, but it wasn’t anything that jumped out at me. Thanks again for the suggestion!!
     
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    I think that’s a great suggestion and think that’s the most logical next step. My goal was to bring this as close to its original glory as I could, but I’m not finding anything out there online that adds up (the replacement neck, while awesome, puts me at a disadvantage when it comes to ID’ing this baby), so I’m not sure what the original glory actually is/was. I’ll mess with it a bit and see where things take me - I have some sort of illness - I just can’t leave well-enough alone ;)
     
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    I like the three pickups. Maybe just put a tele pickup in the neck and a adjust switching to standard with a toggle for the middle pickup when needed. Think that would be very versatile.
     
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    Yeah, the neck won't help but the neck pocket should have some stamps on there that would hopefully give you something to go with. I know what you're saying though, I like to examine things too, I take all mine apart to do the shielding anyway so it's always fun to do some sleuthing.
     
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    Also a cool suggestion - any recommendations on the tele neck pup? My soldering skills are marginal at best, and if I went with a new neck pup, that’d be a lot less “construction” just to switch one out.
    On the other hand if I went to two pups, I’m guessing I would need a new 3-way switch, a couple of 250k pots (maybe a cap?) - does anyone copper foil-shield the cavities on these? Sorry for the potentially dumb question - that seems to be my specialty lately - ha!
     
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    Great input (and thanks for answering my later post shielding question too). I think I need to break out the workbench and tools tonight and do some exploring... I’m just about to finish up a Gibson LP Studio upgrade project and hope to get the youngins’ to bed at a reasonable time so I can put some time in to begin this journey...
     
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    I am a big fan of the Fender PV52 neck pickup or the Nocaster pickups are a safe bet also. Lots of folks in here seem the love the '64s also but I don't have much experience with them. Kinda depends on the budget I'd imagine. Lots of great options.
     
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    Good to hear - my playing has sort of evolved to a much more mellow pickup friendly sound and I am not nearly as chasing those hot or overwound sounds like I used to. I may need to do some research to see what may fit the bill and appreciate the input for sure!
     
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    That would look good with a black pickguard.
     
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    I'd say partscaster too. You my want to upgrade the pickups and the tone and volume controls.
     
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    thats what I’m leaning towards - I may proceed with all new electronics and see where that gets me tone-wise. I’ve sort of gotten attached to this tele but am bummed out that it doesn’t appear to have any original (or maybe even authentic) parts...
     
  18. Mr. St. Paul

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    Looks like the bones are good. Swap out the pickups and electronics and play it with a big smile on your face!
     
  19. Tdurden032

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    I think that’s a great strategy - I’m going to try to make this a fun project/complete overhaul- photos and progress reports to come!
     
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    So I finically wrapped up my Lester upgrades (kids went to, and stayed, in bed so I had a few minutes to spare and went for it) - so happy with the finished product!
    That means it’s time to overhaul the tele - my initial thoughts are to go as “traditional” as I can - 3 barrel bridge, lipstick neck pickup, etc. what does the forum think about pick guard color combinations? I’m leaning towards maple neck with the Olympic body since I have them, but I’m open to suggestions and wouldn’t rule out a rosewood fretboard - what do you all think? Do I go crazy and stick a humbucker in the neck? Grabbed a few photos from online of some nice looking tiles - What does everyone think? Sorry for any duplicated photos too, having mobile device issues today - Thanks in advance!
     
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