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What does the stamp mean?

Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by roachmon, Jan 24, 2021.

  1. Tuxedo Poly

    Tuxedo Poly Friend of Leo's

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    That's bad.
    Might be worth more to part it out and sell the bits separately.
    The body could be a Mex Fender. A shot of the bare body showing pickup routs could help further with identification.
     
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  2. John C

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    The Performer replaced the Special, but as I mentioned this is a 2020 American Special replacement neck - Fender ships them without tuners and regular Fender sealed tuners were installed on this one.

    For what it's worth the American Performers use a silver/black outline "Fender" logo; the older Specials had the black/gold outline "Fender" logo like your neck.
     
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  3. Boreas

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    Welcome to the forum!! Any other hopes we can dash for you today? Way to treat a new member. Sheesh!

    Did you buy it as new or used? Can you get hold of the seller and ask them what is going on? I am no expert, but if it looks good and plays well, you have a good guitar. Some of the best Teles out there are Partscasters.

    It could conceivably be a StewMac body. See routed notch:

    https://www.stewmac.com/tonewoods/s...aVbKI7Uf1tJgoHh3XK7A0zbbgxeKij7waArRwEALw_wcB

    The S/M Candy Apple Red may have been discontinued on the Tele body. It is still offered with their Strat bodies. Take it apart and see if it looks like a StewMac. If so, contact them - they may be able to give you some details. You may feel better if you know it is at least a quality body. If you trade/sell it, you can pass the information on so it doesn't come back to haunt you.
     
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  4. Tuxedo Poly

    Tuxedo Poly Friend of Leo's

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    Or Fender, Stratosphere has several Fender Tele bodies with the truss rod access notch.
    It's appeared on American Performer bodies.

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    And Vinteras

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  5. roachmon

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    Thanks, but I can take it. I half expected it. I had a sinking feeling as I finally became a member and posted my query. It was sold to me as new and I haven’t heard from the seller since I asked a question of him a few days ago. I do believe that it is a pretty good guitar. Just maybe not what it was supposed to be
     
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    Well well well that IS interesting! Any opinions on that discovery? Of course it still doesn’t explain that dang plain bridge plate. That one I really should have spotted!
     
  7. Sparky2

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    roachmon,

    The numerous holes in the body (in the neck pocket) were a warning flag to me.

    There's nothing to account for that many holes, other than some previous owner was an experimenter.

    :(
     
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  8. roachmon

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    That, unfortunately is a very good point. Think I have to bite the bullet and pull it off the local market for now. I won’t do what I believe was done to me
     
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  9. Sparky2

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    You're a good person.

    You'll do the right thing, and there's no shame in finding out (and admitting) that you maybe paid too much for a guitar.

    I have done it nearly a dozen times in my life.
    Which means that I may not be necessarily a learning, evolving organism myself.

    (Checking to see if I have opposable thumbs now.)

    It's all good.
    You may just choose to hang onto that partscaster, especially if it's a good player.
    It sure looks good, to me anyway.

    :)
     
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  10. Sparky2

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    I did exactly that with a white on white US-made Fender Stratocaster.
    All the details were right.
    It played fabulously.
    I really liked it.

    The pawn shop asked $600 for it, but settled for $375.

    After I got it home, I came to realize that it was a beautiful, phony, fabulous, fake Strat.
    Whoever made it knew their stuff.

    I played it for a year and a half, and eventually sold it to a friend for $200 US Dollars.
    He knew full well it was a great guitar, but that it was as fake as a politician's smile.

    Flash-forward a year later, and I just saw it in yet another pawn shop, and they are asking $175 for it.

    Too funny.

    I should've just hung onto it.
    It was a good player.

    :(

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    To address your original question, it could be an "M" meaning it is to be matched with a "Maple" neck.
     
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    As mentioned earlier by @Tuxedo Poly, did you try to register the guitar yet? Or have you tried a Serial# search? Perhaps Fender can shed some light. It wouldn't be the first time Fender grabbed a body from one line to be used on another line. It could be a transition between the Special/Player change. Or perhaps a retailer request for this particular color. If it was sold to you as new, they may be able to help.
     
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  13. roachmon

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    Actually no I haven’t tried to contact Fender yet. I’ll fire off an email tonight and hopefully I’ll hear back within a day or two. Thanks for repeating that advice
     
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    Hmmmmm . . Wondering if I should hang on to my player.
     
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    They are usually fast to reply.
     
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    I would definitely hang onto it.

    If it plays nicely, and feels and sounds good, there's no down side to it.

    And who knows?
    When Fender replies to your query, you may find out something interesting about the guitar.
    Or, at the very least, confirm its dubious pedigree.

    At that point, you would have a really great mongrel guitar.

    I love all my mongrel guitars, truth be told.

    :)
     
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    No doubt that I could love this guitar. But covid has given me a bad case of GAS and something else is already on the way (from a reputable shop thank you very much!). Of course, GAS did get me into this predicament in the first place. :rolleyes:
     
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    Used Performers are going for less than $950 on the used market.

    if that is a MIM body and a genuine Fender Special replacement neck and tuners you could easily part it out and get $650 for the parts. How deep in are you?

    As for the notch between the neck pocket and pickup rout picture on the surf green Performer... I bought one of those bodies from Stratosphere and it DIDN’T have that notch!

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  19. John C

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    Well I blew that one - I didn't see these bodies with that notch in them when I looked on Stratosphere before I made my first post. :oops::oops::oops:

    Plus the surf green American Performer body has a similar looking neck pocket without stamps.

    I'm going to retract my comment about it being a non-Fender body until the OP can remove the pickguard and bridge to see what the routing looks like.
     
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    So I removed the bridge plate, neck plate and pick guard. And here are the results...
     

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