What do you think of faux binding?

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  1. Freeman Keller

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    I use separate wood binding on most of my guitars - the exception is when I build a clone of some classic Gibson guitar, in which case I'll use plastic. My problem with the faux binding is that I can't control the way stain is absorbed into the wood - if you look at several of those faux binding examples you'll see a fuzzy little line at the interface. Apparently PRS's technique is to mask the side of the top to create the side "binding" and to somehow scrape or sand the top just enough to remove the stain and create the edge. I haven't tried it, I'm happy doing it as a separate piece of wood

    Binding is often functional - it protects the soft end grain, particularly spruce on acoustic guitars. Its also decorative and gives the builder a chance to show off a bit.

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    Even plastic binding can be interesting

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    Faux binding is not hard with a basic process. The key is not letting dye get on your side as it will soak in deeper than can be removed.

    I seal my sides before dying the top. I then apply pinstripe tape to the side where the binding will be. If you wipe on don't slop dye on. Use light thin coats that dry quickly. If I am spraying on dye I will mist a light clear coat on first to seal the tape edge.

    Once the dye is on, remove your pinstripe and lightly raizer any bleed thru off your sealer. I like to spray a light coat of clear again to the top to seal in the dye before adding the smallllll chamfer the top with a trim router. Then clear clear clear!

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    I've only done it once and did the same method as Eric. It was fairly easy and turned out really nice. I used a utility blade to clean up the edges and that worked perfectly.
     
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    Awe man don't give up do a google search for Binding Scraper.
     
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    I did it on a LP that was clearly missing binding:
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    I like binding. I was gonna do a faux/natural binding on my Tele but ended up not.
     
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    If I remember, I mixed some silver black dye and wiped that on, sanded back and added the blue.
    I only had a small section that had a little bleed through of the blue to the edge.
     
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    I really like faux/reveal binding, when it’s done well. That’s always been one of my favorite features on PRS guitars. Gorgeous
     
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    i'm a big binding fan too. real or not. but i do like the comfort cuts on the backs
     
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    Scraping Binding on an ES-355 Build

    Scraping for sharp looking binding: here's how it's done!
     
  11. Freeman Keller

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    Plastic binding on traditional Gibson guitar are a piece of cake to deal with compared with either wood or faux wood binding. I tape the sides with 1/4 inch pin striping tape but it seems like some finish always bleeds under the tape. Simple matter to scrape back with a box cutter blade

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    Then the f-holes get scraped back, clear coated and the inside tape pulled

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    A little final clean up and time to wire it

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    My tastes are similar, never liked plastic binding. Though I love faux binding.

    It's interesting to see people doing it by sanding. I've assumed it was always done by masking.
     
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    You won't get a clean edge once it has soaked into the grain without sanding off the wood the depth the dye has penetrated, which can be surprisingly deep at times. I remember that very mistake on my 1st faux years ago. That is when I went to sealing before adding dye when doing faux. It is also easier to control dye penetration spraying it on as it tends to be thin enough to dry rapidly.

    Every time something doesn't turn out is a learning experience for the next one that will. Some of my coolest finishes have been born out of adjusting from a mishap.

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    I decided to go a different direction. Will attempt a faux/natural binding next time. Thanks for all the ideas.

    I glued the neck last night.

    Next is sealing/lacquer.
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    Beautiful!
     
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