Friend of Leo's
- Oct 9, 2019
- Colorado USA
What String Tree said!I tell everybody else to Turn Up.
I’ve played a gremlin. Wasn’t really my thing. I’d like to try an Imperial though. If I read things correctly (BIG if), they have a BF channel and a Tweed channel. Plus they have a tone king attenuator built-in to the amp.if they're too loud, sell "em or trade for something you can use.
Given what you think of as too loud, you may want to try a Tone King Gremlin.
Best of luck.
I have played Mesa/Boogie amps for something like 30 years. My previous amp was a 22 watt, 1 x 10", 37 lb Mesa Subway Rocket Reverb... sitting at an angle on the floor it's simply loud as Hell... my philosophy has been (drummers with 60 cymbals and 3 sticks duct taped together in each hand not withstanding) if it needs to be louder than THIS, then it needs a mic and the venue should be large enough for a very big front of house P.A.
I use any and all amps as a clean foundation, then get my dirt, fuzz, OD, distortion, etc out of pedals.
It's also a light enough amp to not give you the typical Mesa Mark II-B white knuckle blues (my amp before the Subway).. the Mark II-B I had had an Electro-Voice EVM 12" speaker, and just the speaker was 22lbs...
My current Boogie is an Express 5:25 1 x 12" combo (in vanilla taurus w/ a wicker grill). It has a nice step-down feature where there is a mini switch on the front to choose of which watt do you want. I suppose this feature built in the the amp gives you a similar thing as using an attenuator after the amp and before the speakers... (stock photo)
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Maybe a Boogie is out of your price range... but as far as stuff goes, I'm sure there is probably a cheaper brand that clones the Boogie idea(s)...
This amp is a pre-Gibson Boogie... I can't say hoiw the new Gibson-owned Boogies will faire
Boogie just came out with their newest Mark amp... the Mark VII combo, head, and rack mount head... but all are over an ouchy $2,000... (typical over-blown Gibson prices now)... but Boogies have never been cheap... best to fins one used, as they are pretty much bullet proof... (says the 30+ year Boogie lover)... now on my 4th ever Boogie and never one problem with any model... even using the Mark II-B as a gigging amp in and out and in and out 6 nights a week... never failed... not even a hiccup
-- can't say that about Marshall... IMHO, they blow up too easy
-- can't say that about PolyTone amps... big smoking blow up later
-- can't say that about Evans Custom Amplifiers... blew up, sent back twice, never did fix it right, into the dumpster she goes...
-- can't say that about Peavey... 1979-80 Classic 2 x 12" combo... blew up FOUR times (tube socket, then speaker, then the other tune socket, then the other speaker)... and never even had it out of my bedroom... that's MY Peavey experience
Bullet-proof Boogies for me... under $1,000 for most combos if bought used... or find a store that will stretch you a layaway on a used Boogie...
I’m planning on building a 5F2-a in the near future. Saving my pennies as we speak.The original poster obviously likes the tone of a guitar into a nice non-master volume tube amp.
I'd sell the 20112 and use the funds to build something smaller, like a tweed Champ or Princeton with a Souround OT. With a Weber 10A100T, it'll break up at lower volumes than the SFPR and sound way sweeter than most of the other options. The Jensen P10R-FEN is warmer than the Weber, and 92.5 dB sensitivity, but I prefer the sound of the Weber. Just my 2 cents.
I already own a 1975 SFPR. It’s my favorite amp, and I’ll never get rid of it. But the Marshall and tweed “sounds” are distinct and glorious. The both do something that the PR will never be able able to do, namely the crunchy, touch sensitive, overdriven rock tones.Just get the Princeton Reverb and be done with it.
What did YOU do when you realized your amp was too loud for your needs/space/situation?
Seriously? Because both my SV20h and my Victoria 20112 are KILLING my ears. I LOVE the sound of these two amps when they are doing their thing, but I can’t stand to be in the same room with them at those volumes. Along with damaging my hearing anymore than I already have, I also don’t want to piss off my family or neighbors (I live in a duplex with great neighbors). I’ve tried attenuators (Ox Box, Marshall Powerbrake, JHS little black box, buffered volume pedal) and they sound worse than playing the amps at low volume. Not only that, but when I play at church (they only place I “play out”) it’s all digital and direct, and I don’t see the digital modeling trend going back to amps-on stage in churches for the foreseeable future.
So, do I sell them and use some of the funds to build the 5F2a I’m wanting to build? Do I play them at low volume knowing full well that the tone I crave is in there, but unobtainable? Do I keep them around because they are awesome amps even if they’re too loud and won’t be used to their potential?
As an aside I have a ‘75 SFPR that is the amp I play most. I love it. I can control the volume, it sounds awesome with either my Tele and LP, and takes any of my pedals extremely well, so I do have a great amp that gets played a lot.