What Deluxe tranny is this?

[nico]

Made in US? Any good? Thanks!

 

[corliss1]

"238" is the code for Thordarsen-Meissner, which is now called Thordarson:

Thordarson

 

[2L man]

I think small OT is essential for 5E3 sound when there comes OT saturation for higher power output. And still more OT saturation when cathodyne phase splitter output signals distort different when strings are picked hard and amp is almost dimed.

 

[omahaaudio]

Not the posting that this subject header lead me to believe it would be.

 

[Jasonpatrick]

Made in US? Any good? Thanks!

What do you mean what tranny? Like Brand? Easy google search on the 125A1A and what fender amps it was used it. You’ll find it on very very late tweeds(1960 late) but then it’s the transformer used in the the brown Deluxe and DR.

 

[Wally]

I have never seen an OEM Thoradson in a Fender amp. Did that happen?
I would assume this OT is an aftermarket item, but I could be mistaken.

 

[corliss1]

Definitely aftermarket

 

[Intubator]

Manufactured the 26th week of '97. Any mid- late '90's Deluxe reissue owners have one of these?..

 

[WalthamMoosical]

Not the posting that this subject header lead me to believe it would be.

Coulda been any of these, and more:

transistor
transformer
Transylvanian
transgdender

What with word completion in text boxes these days to help me spell things out, I'm trying to be careful to avoid comprehension transgressions.

 

[nico]

Thank you all for your answers! Jason -- I'm a dumb dumb, I googled the NSC reference, assuming the sharpie lettering wasn't useful. Never assume.

What do you mean what tranny? Like Brand? Easy google search on the 125A1A and what fender amps it was used it. You’ll find it on very very late tweeds(1960 late) but then it’s the transformer used in the the brown Deluxe and DR.

 

[rdjones]

NSC = New Sensor Corp

So, OEMed by Thordarson for Matthews.
041318 is the Fender part# for the reissue Deluxe Reverb, and is several generations removed from a "125A1A".

Was Fender in cahoots with Matthews in the '90s ?

 

[gabasa]

That's definitely an aftermarket wind, as others have stated, but I question whether it really is wound like a true 125A1A. According to Bryan Sours on the Soursound website, the 125A1A is, "A deceptively difficult transformer to wind thanks to it’s layer density and 5 section interleaving (all layer wound of course) ..."

I wonder if an inexpensive replacement OT is wound as quickly as possible on modern equipment to just achieve the correct impedances and winding ratios, or, do these companies go out of their way to truly provide 5 sections of layer wound interleaving at that price? The sound of the original has a lot to do with the quality of metals used and the type of wind in addition to the impedances and ratios.

Soursound's 125A1A sounds nothing like any of the others; it's quite the departure. It's what got me thinking about this lately. I'm not trying to push a brand into the conversation, just questioning if typically a replacement OT is actually a true reproduction of what it's claiming to be.

 

[Intubator]

Put a meter on the primary and secondary leads and see what kind of resistance you have in Ohms and then compare to OEM. Not a determiner of an absolute replica but may rule out if its in the ballpark and even functional. I have some experience with Thorardsen transformers from the '40's-'60's and they have all been high quality.

 

[omahaaudio]

Coulda been any of these...

Coulda been about a Turbo-Hydramatic.

 

[WalthamMoosical]

D'oh I forgot that one!